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I guess I must live on some island in the Arctic ocean that nobody's been to. It's a wonder I speak English!<br> <br><br> <table align="center"> <td style="border-left: 10 solid #00aaaa; border-right: 10 solid #00aaaa; align="center""> From Lorraine (Lollieslobsnot@aol.com)<br> <br> <font face="Verdana" size="2" color="#003333">have just been reading some of the information on your "Disappearing teenage girls" webpage and I feel the need to challenge your opinion that it is mostly "christian" girls who suffer from anorexia. You seem to suggest that the reason for the beliefs of anorexics is based within Christianity itself and I would severely disagree.<br><br> This is not the first time I have accessed this webpage. I gave a presentation, titled "How does the media affect the way we think?" which was based mainly on anorexia and found your website quite useful. However, before you can suggest that most anorexics are Christian, I suggest you get your definition of Christian correct. Many countries that claim to be Christian actually aren't. In fact, most "wealthy" countries worship modern technology more than the God of Christianity or claim that there is no God (like yourselves). Therfore, I think it would be wise if you looked to the media for the reason so many young people are unhappy, even distressed, by their appearance and lay your blame there rather than with Christianity. Being a Christian myself, I know the Bible and I care very little about the fact that you are an atheist company. Studies have shown that in media-influenced countries there is a much higher rate of eating disorders (and indeed other mental health issues) than in countries that are not ruled by the media. One study showed a massive increase in the number of eating disorder sufferers in Fiji after TV was introduced.<br><br> In conclusion, I know that if the people who suffer with this terrible disorder knew the God that I know and who loves me, then they would not be able to agree with most of the statements in "Ana's Creed" and would, therefore, not fit into this category you define as being "...the anorectic/bulimic girls who want, basically, to be like faeries..."<br><br> I appreciate your time and hope that you will rethink the use of the term "christian" in your current and any further articles on this subject.</font><br> </td></tr></table> <br> <br> My article is not about anorexia. It is about pro-ana websites. The websites tend to be put up by girls professing christian belief.<br><br> "This is not the first time I have accessed this webpage. I gave a presentation, titled "How does the media affect the way we think?" which was based mainly on anorexia and found your website quite useful. However, before you can suggest that most anorexics are Christian, I suggest you get your definition of Christian correct."<br><br> One that believes in Jesus Christ, that he rose from the dead, and that he was somehow able to die for "our" sins. That is a christian. It is not my fault if one girl's belief doesn't fit your personal defintiion of what a christian should be. If she calls herself one, she is.<br><br> "Many countries that claim to be Christian actually aren't. In fact, most "wealthy" countries worship modern technology more than the God of Christianity or claim that there is no God (like yourselves)."<br><br> I disagree with your claims that "countries worship modern technology." Maybe you need to check your definition of "worship?" <br><br> A country cannot claim there is no God. Countries do not have a belief. An INDIVIDUAL claims there is a god or many gods. Some people don't believe that. Some individuals worship all kinds of nonsense, maybe even certain technologies, though I've never met one. Some people follow collectivist beliefs, including but not limited to communism, socialism, totalitarian states, and Jesus-ism. But that has nothing to do with my article. Again, my article is about Pro-Ana Websites.<br><br> "Therfore, I think it would be wise if you looked to the media for the reason so many young people are unhappy, even distressed, by their appearance and lay your blame there rather than with Christianity"<br><br> I'm not blaming anorexia on christianity. I have a site reviewing crackpot websites that promote anorexia as a "lifestyle choice." This is not the same issue as the medical problem of anorexia. <i>I later edit the page to place blame on Christianity, out of spite.--Alleee</i><br><br> "In conclusion, I know that if the people who suffer with this terrible disorder knew the God that I know and who loves me, then they would not be able to agree with most of the statements in "Ana's Creed" and would, therefore, not fit into this category you define as being "...the anorectic/bulimic girls who want, basically, to be like faeries..."<br><br> The earliest identified anorectics followed the fasting and self-harming habits of their favorite saints. Suffering is promoted in your religion, as sacrifice, which shares a prefix with "sacrament." Your religion in based on sacrifice. I don't see any conflict,<br><br> "I appreciate your time and hope that you will rethink the use of the term "christian" in your current and any further articles on this subject."<br><br> I have no problem with my definition of the term "Christian." Belief that Jesus was holy, was crucified, transfigured, came back to life and atoned for your sins is a fine defintiion indeed. I don't understan why you christians are constantly challenging each other on those basic beliefs. It's ridiculous, and you shouldn't join the bickering minions.<br><br> I thank you for your interest, but if you're looking for an article on anorexia, you came to the wrong place. <br> <br> <font face="Verdana" size="2" color="#003333">Thankyou for your reply. However, it still firmly believe that the term "christian" is misused within the named article as, no matter how you read it, it still implies that Christianity is responsible.</font> <i>It does now.--Alleee</i><br><br> <font face="Verdana" size="2" color="#003333">Regarding your statement about Christianity being about suffering, I would like to tell you simply that you are wrong. The Bible teaches that it is because of sin that we suffer and that people do not have to suffer any longer because Jesus' death has satisfied the wrath of God, but people still choose to sin and, therefore, choose to suffer.<br><br> One thing that is also unclear in your article is whether you are promoting these "Pro-Ana" websites or condemning them as the writing style seems to fluctuate between the two. Perhaps this is another point that needs some consideration.<br><br> Lorraine.</font><br><br> Read the aticle again. I edited it to make myself more clear. I do think that Christianity is responsible for many things leading to anorexia. Now the article "implies" that even stronger than before. Thank you for inspiring me to do so.<br><br> I am quite aware of what the bible says, and I also know that it is extremely contradictory about this subject. Jesus' self-sacrifice is supposed to keep us from having to slaughter goats, but it doesn't mean that for 2 thousand years, Christians were not on the forefront of self-harm. Fasting. Self-flagellation. Hair shirts. Bondage and disipline. These are Christian practices. Suffering, in this culture, is worshopped. Not "modern technology." Christianity brought about the victim-worship culture. Those that sacrifice and those that suffer are considered heroes. Saints are praised for their suffering. Whether we choose to "sin" or not is irrelevant. Christians sin, and our culture is christian. Whether yoyu're a christian or an atheist, western culture has suffered from the influence of your scripture.<br><br> "One thing that is also unclear in your article is whether you are promoting these "Pro-Ana" websites or condemning them as the writing style seems to fluctuate between the two. Perhaps this is another point that needs some consideration."<br><br> I am neither "condemning" nor "promoting." Am I required to do one or the other? You refund is in the mail. I am reviewing the sites by giving my thoughts. Do I think the girls have a right to express themselves through these websites? Absolutely. It might help them. Do I think they should be shut down? Absolutely not. Why would I promote censorship, when I think freedom of speech is the most important freedom we have? Do I think they are crackpots and wrong? Absolutely. My article is not about ending anorexia. The article sits among other articles about health quackery.<br><br> I "promote" many sites that are far worse than these. among them are Christian sites. We review strange sites, and the reader is free to go there, read them, and make up their own minds, which is only slightly different than what google does. We just put all of the ones we think are goofy in the same site. Google doesn't offer criticism. So maybe you should take your complaint to google, if censorship is your goal.<br><br> As an ex-christian, I know that the single best tool for ending belief in christianity is the "holy" bible. That is what I do on my other sites and radio program. I encourage reading it. In this same way I encourage people to apply reason to as many other spurious claims that fester out there.<br><br> Sincerely,<br><br> Alison<br><br> <a href="http://www.hellboundalleee.com">Hellbound Alleee</a><br><br>  </td></tr></table> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center" width="100%"> <td bgcolor="#ff5555"> <center> <a href="../index.htm"><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#ddddff"><b>Back to the front page</b></a> </center></font> </td></tr> </table> </body> </html>