11 November 1995
RI-344i 'LRH Deserted You Already in 1966'
(former Title: RI-344i 'LRH wants to be admired so people don't look at him'
as referred to in RI-345i 'What LRH is now Withholding from Koos')
from Ron's Inspector
Message # RI-344i for Internet
LRH on 9 Nov 1995 23:08 GMT
[Koos to Ron:] You have let yourself be admired to death
and you better stop it.
[Auditor:] How would
'wanting to be admired
SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT YOU',
make you right?
[Ron:] "I have not considered that I need admiration
or that I wanted admiration, LFBD
people gave it to me freely
and I thanked them for their communication. LFBD
That's not aberrated.
"But, let's see:
I had something on
'People don't have to look at me'.
"The reason for this bold statement was:
auditing; I was auditing myself continuously
or I got auditing.
I said:
I looked myself, I changed so fast,
that if you looked at one thing [about me] today,
it was maybe already handled in the next sessions
without that you mentioned it to me.
[It would have disappeared so fast
that it would have been unnecessary
to actually mention to me what you observed in me.]"
[Note by Koos:
"Arrogance progresses with logarithmic increments
(increases very very fast)
from a tiny amount
when stopping it is prohibited or prevented."]
[Auditor:] How would
'wanting to be admired
so that people don't look at you',
make you right?
"It would make me right
for having enjoyed [sic(k)! (Note by Koos)]
the admiration of Miscavige.
I CERTAINLY ALSO FORCED HIM TO NOT LOOK AT ME." LFBD
[Auditor:] How would
'wanting to be admired
so that people don't look at you',
make you right?
"For taking no advice from others.
'People didn't have to look at me:
I knew more about the mind and about life than they;
and what was left for them, was, TO ADMIRE ME.'
That sounds like another Service Fac [fixed solution
or fixed idea]."
[Auditor:] How would
'wanting to be admired
so that people don't look at you',
make you right?
"So that I could decide on acting without being evaluated.
Like abandoning, [in] 1966, my responsibility for the Church."
[Koos to Ron:] Right now, we are interested in
how you use it,
to let yourself be 'keyed-in' [restimulated]
by Ray Mithoff.
So: How would it make you right
for not seeing Ray Mithoff's intentions?
[Ron:] "[It would make me right with]
'When I look at a Suppressive Person
he is [would be] very upset about it,
when I look at a decent person,
the person is happy about my interest
and I got back an admiration
or generally I got back 'VGI's' [Very Good Indicators
from that person, for my looking at him or her].'
[Note by Koos: I understand this to mean that
when Ron looked at someone
and he got back admiration from that person
this showed that that person was not suppressive
and not anti-social and not anti-Scientology
and not anti-Ron.
So all they had to do
to deceive LRH about their actual intentions, was
TO ADMIRE HIM!
And indeed, Suppressive Persons
do use this 'weapon'
on those they can't suppress openly or directly,
such as their seniors.]
"'I had a schedule of what I wanted to handle.
When I wanted to look at SP's [just] for research purposes,
then I DID look at them,
but I DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK ALL THE TIME AT SP's.' LFBD
[Note by Koos: This is a famous justification
for refusing to care for one's friends.
Socrates was also infected with this disease.]
"So I had others doing that job for me.
First the GO [Guardian Office], then RTC and OSA.
[Note by Koos: In fact they were carefully instructed
and forced by LRH, (to put it in extremes
so that you will see better
what I am talking about)
to NOT LOOK AT SP's WHICH LRH HIMSELF
HAD NOT DETECTED.
LRH rejected reports (I am generalizing now)
about Suppressives detected by others.
The Suppressives worked for him, and also admired him.
This was almost total proof
that they were not Suppressive or anti-social
or anti-Scientology or anti-Ron.
Do you get the concept, now?]
"Further you could say, my whole work [actually] was:
to DIMINISH the suppressive influences
on the lives of beings,
and to ENHANCE their survival potential:
less suppression, more life.
So, in a way, I was continuously WORKING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
A Case Supervisor or an Auditor
are doing very much the same.
"[It was] wishful thinking that Ray Mithoff
would ALSO have this intention in his job.
So Ray Mithoff gave me admiration,
and I [then] think that he understands my job,
and his [own] job."
[Auditor:] How would
'wanting to be admired
so that people don't look at you',
make others wrong?
"Koos does not give me undivided admiration,
so I [would] think he does not understand what I am doing
and what important contribution
I have made to the culture on Earth."
[Auditor:] How would
'wanting to be admired
so that people don't look at you',
make others wrong?
"So Ray Mithoff can play it up:
''I [Mithoff] am actually much more valuable for you than Koos.
I give you due respect and I work for you [Ron],
whereby Koos is only stamping on your weak points.''
[Ron's Cognition:] LFBD
That's covering up
that Ray Mithoff as a Case Supervisor
had NOT 'stamped on my weak points'
like Koos [does] as a Case Supervisor,
although I basically have nothing against it
if someone like Koos
has the courage and responsibility - and ARC - to do so!
VGI's F/Nind
L. Ron Hubbard"
LRH on 10 Nov 1995, 17:47 GMT
[Auditor:] What are you trying to do to Koos?
[Ron:] "I am trying to be upset
that I was left out of the game today.
Intentionally ignored [by Koos, by Bill, by Jutta]."
[Koos:] Yes, that's right!
[Ron:] "I wanted to claim:
'After all it is MY responsibility
what is going on in Orgs,
and what is happening with staff and public.'
I had some 'natter' [destructive criticism]
about Koos preferring Bill Robertson to work with.
"Then I recalled
that since a long time, maybe since 1966,
I have not WANTED to be 'on lines' [in the game and playing it].
"I felt by-passed today,
I claimed: 'after all, they are MY organisations'
but I recalled in the next moment
that I had decided
'NOT MY organisations anymore...
but YOUR organisations'. LFBD
"YES, IT WAS 1966!
"It was quite 'therapeutical' to find that out, now.
"What I was trying to do to Koos was
to hinder Koos from having influence over 'my organisations',
today, and now and then before,
but [actually] they WERE NOT my organisations
because I wasn't responsible for them.
"I was really - in that respect - in the valence LF
of SP's who HAD decided
the organisations were 'THEIR organisations'! LF
"SP's [who] didn't like Koos [being] in 'THEIR organisations'
for the simple reason that Koos detected
that they were not responsible for people,
with [by the use of]
- what they claimed to be - THEIR organisations.
"This is actually a cognition of mine:
I thought I HAD these organisations!
"Koos HAS these organisations more than I do!
"Another cognition:
I WAS in the valence of Ray Mithoff
the last weeks, months, at least.
[The valence of:] 'My Organisations! - Not Koos's!'
"[To have looked at this]
that's a better start for me to be responsible!
L. Ron Hubbard"
LRH on 10 Nov 1995, 23:42 GMT
[Auditor:] Did Ray Mithoff at any time
'C/S' [Supervise the auditing of] your case?
Please give details.
"Ray Mithoff did not 'C/S' my case.
To 'C/S' my case
he would have had to be at the same Level [as I was],
or higher."
[IMPORTANT Note by Koos:
Now this is really great.
LRH made it a Scientology 'High Crime'
for anyone to make HIM saner!
To quote his own words of 1963
in the great lecture called 'The Free Being'
- and quoted so much in context
that those who know the lecture can insert here
that very context and find it most applicable -
this is "SINGULARLY UNINTELLIGENT".
So we will now cancel all the relevant HCO Bulletins,
and replace it with the permission
that anyone of any case-level
is permitted to audit or case-supervise
anyone else of any level,
if - and ONLY if -
MUTUAL Understanding and MUTUAL respect
and MUTUAL responsibility allow it,
or even (as in a family, for instance)
demand it.]
[Auditor:] Did Ray Mithoff audit you at any time,
or are you still going to him, to be audited by him?
Please give details.
"No, I am not going to him to be audited.
"Ray Mithoff HAS audited me.
"In 1985 and in 1984; LF
I asked him to do some Lists
and some Sec Checking in late 1985."
[Koos:] Please give details,
especially in the light of present knowledge.
[LRH:] "The Sec Checks were done
after attainment of the last OT-State (OT XXIII (23) )
which enabled me
to be totally free from the need for bodies.
[ Note by Koos:
'Free of need for bodies at OT XXIII'.
Some months ago
I thought it would be helpful
to get LRH's force-level up a bit,
so that we could get things
faster back onto the right track.
My instructions to the auditor were
to run the command on LRH
"Pick up that piece of paper from the table
and put it on the floor".
And LRH could not do that.
LRH could not lift that piece of paper
one millimeter.
So he tried to get out of it
by getting the Auditor
to move it with body's hands.
When I saw this,
I got them back onto the actual commands,
but without any result.
Earlier, there had been many justifications
in the manner of
"I can't remove Miscavige, etc.
'because I don't have a body', or
'if I still had a body
I could and would handle (so and so)', or
'in this society it certainly has advantages
to have a body'."
(Now certainly these were justifications
for the refusal to remove anti-social Scientologists,
but the facts remain.)
I believe it has very much to do
with what activity or role you want to play,
whether it is of more advantage
to have a body than not.
I don't think that this person
who is healing people in Lourdes
has a great desire or need for having a body,
but he certainly is able
to heal bodies from a distance!
Or studying nature, or the stars,
might be much easier done without a body,
if you don't want to write about it or film it,
at the same time, that is.
But to say that you have achieved, with OT XXIII,
freedom of the need for bodies,
when you CAN'T lift a piece of paper
or move a pen or the keys of a piano,
without hands, that is,
or, when the willingness of others
to accept these 'miracles',
or the ability of others to be able to identify
who does the writing or playing without use of a body,
when that is not present,
then freedom of the need for bodies would mean
the playing of quite a different game,
a game which could easily become a lessening of
responsibility for one's friends,
or in the extreme case,
a total withdrawal from one's friends -
which is very very non-survival.
I am NOT making statements here about
the validity of goals or of states or abilities.
I AM MERELY SPECULATING, HERE.
I also have not had the time yet
to sort this out with LRH.
We do know however that LRH
wanted to be very responsible, and was, up to 1966,
IN ORDER TO AT THE END ESCAPE ALL RESPONSIBIITY.
And that, we do know that, is most undesirable.
It made LRH unwilling to see or handle
the very strong intention of his successors
to try and use Scientology to enslave
and dominate Man.
That much we definitely DO know.
So we will, together with LRH,
examine these things very carefully.
I have not been able to take the time for that,
because we first have to remove
the anti-Scientologists or Black-Scientologists
from the top of the Church,
a mission
which is nearing its end with removing Ray Mithoff.
After that, it still might be necessary
to remove Norman Starkey
if he is still not willing to leave by himself,
or willing to pass over his job
to International Management.
Maybe another anti-Scientologist
tries to make a last stand in RTC - who knows -
although I doubt that. ]
[LRH:] "These Sec Checks were designed to help me check
whether I had 'properly given everything over'!
(Now I would say [giving everything over
was] an outpoint [illogic] in itself!)
"The question[s] [of those Sec Checks]:
'what are you blowing from'
or
'what do you want to get rid of'
or
'what do you try to escape',
couldn't
[get an E-meter-]read.
But on
'try to escape (so an so)';
[it should have read (on the E-meter)
on:]
'[try to ESCAPE] TO LOOK AT MY ACTUAL CONDITION'. sF
On
'want to get rid of (so and so)';
[it should have read
on:]
'[want TO GET RID OF]
ALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I DID IN THE PAST' sF
or the like.
"We had mutual[ly agreed upon]
'out-ruds' [non-survival conditions while
preventing (each other)
from looking at these].
"He [Mithoff] didn't want me to look. [He WANTED me to not look.]
I didn't want to look. [I WANTED to not look.]
"When I evaluate it now:
what we did was more like
Astronaut and Ground Control
going thoroughly over a check-list before the take-off,
[while] the Astronaut withholds
that he has the intention to commit suicide
and Ground Control withholds
that he has the intention to kill the Astronaut."
[Ron:] "Ray Mithoff did also Sec Check
Miscavige and Marc Yager and Lesevre
and Heber Jentzsch and Norman Starkey,
all under the aspect:
'Ron is ready to take off,
is there anything still to do or say before?'
"These Sec Checks didn't touch
the out-ethics [the non-survival intentions]
of the take-off itself.
L. Ron Hubbard"
LRH on 11 Nov 1995, 01:37 GMT
[Auditor:] How are you currently obstructing the
removal of Ray Mithoff?
"By keeping Scientologists in the belief
[that] they are helping ME by following suppressive orders."
[Koos:] How are you DOING that now?
What is the ACTION?
"I detect, if I look at myself,
despite all I know about Ray Mithoff,
that I give Ray Mithoff admiration."
[Auditor:] How are you currently obstructing the
removal of Ray Mithoff?
"I am obstructing his removal
because I do not want to give him responsibility for me. LFBD
"That's interesting. Have I ever done this?
I have never, this lifetime at least,
expected, demanded of anyone to be responsible for ME.
"Now this moment, for example,
I think it would have been MY responsibility
to care that the Sec Checks [in] 1986 [before the suicide]
were properly done.
"So I find excuses for Ray Mithoff.
[Note by Koos:
A Suppressive ALWAYS blames decent people
for things
the Suppressive INTENTIONALLY made go wrong.
And decent people almost ALWAYS fall for this trap,
because decent people are willing to admit
that they did not take responsibility,
or (obviously, as things went wrong)
not enough responsibility.
In the present case however,
Ron WANTED TO TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY.
And so he let his executioner gladly attest
that 'all is fine'.
The executioner was very obliging to LRH:
to not tell LRH that he wanted LRH executed,
and that he (Ray Mithoff and friends)
could now freely use Scientology to dominate Man.
Ron said:
I did my job - now I have the right
to be fully irresponsible again.]
[Back to LRH:]
"I change my consideration about it - no, correct it -
[now]:
that I would expect of an auditor
full responsibility for me and for my case.
And if he doesn't do it,
I would have to separate from him:
[because] he is dangerous to my survival!
"So, no excuses!
He [Ray Mithoff] failed me!
F/Nind
L. Ron Hubbard"
LRH on 11 Nov 1995, 02:22 GMT
[Auditor:] What does Ray Mithoff consider
to be NOT an overt [non-survival act] of yours?
"That I blew [ran away from all responsibility], in 1986."
"That I do not remove him [Mithoff]." F
"That now
I do not take active responsibility for
- not only Scientology - but for life."
"That I keep him [Mithoff] on post.
LFBD-F/Nind
L. Ron Hubbard"
LRH on 11 Nov 1995, 03:11 GMT
[Auditor:] What overt of yours
do YOU want Ray Mithoff to not look at
[a 'not looking'
which you try to bring about in Ray Mithoff]
by admiring Ray Mithoff?
"That, in 1966, I gave the Church out of my hands."
"That, in 1966, I stopped
wanting to be responsible for the Church."
"THAT IN 1966 ALREADY
I STOPPED WANTING TO BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE CHURCHES OF SCIENTOLOGY.
F/Nind
L. Ron Hubbard"
LRH on 11 Nov 1995, 19:35 GMT
[Auditor:] How are you doing now as regards Ray Mithoff?
"I HAVE SEPARATED FROM RAY MITHOFF.
"What is important for me now is
to handle Koos's ARC-breaks [upsets] with me
which I have caused."
[Koos to Ron:] There is a lot of work to do
to re-establish ARC [Understanding]
between Scientologists to Koos
and re-establish ARC
between Scientologists to Ron. LF's
[Ron:] "Yes. That is true.
"I have started to look at the many many ARCX's [upsets]
which I caused to Koos about me.
"And there are the ARCX's [upsets]
which I have caused to Koos about others.
"And there are the ARCX's [upsets]
which I have caused others about Koos,
and so through all the Flows [interactions].
"That's what I am doing
to handle my former connection to Ray Mithoff."
F/Nind
[Koos:] That's very good!
[Ron to Koos:] "Thank you for your work, Koos!
F/Nind
L. Ron Hubbard"
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ron's Inspector
Copyright 1995 by Koos Nolst Trenite
references:
RI-340i 'Current Head of CoS, MITHOFF - URGENT URGENT' 8 Nov 95
RI-306i 'The Suppressive Ray Mithoff's POWER GAME' 21 Oct 95
RI-23i 'More Proof on David Miscavige' of 17 Nov 1994
RI-195i 'LRH on Ray Mithoff, Snr C/S INT' of 1 June 1995
RI-203i 'Hundred Percent Standard "No Auditing"' of 6 Jun 95
RI-210i 'Ray Mithoff, Senior C/S INT, declared SP' 12 Jun 95
RI-210i-A 'SP Declare Snr C/S INT Ray Mithoff - Add' 2 July 95
RI-215i 'The June 23 World Wide "Briefing"' of 20 Jun 1995
RI-244i 'SP Ray Mithoff - Opponent of LRH' of 27 July 1995
RI-245i 'Why Ray Mithoff, ..., does not want LRH' 30 July 95
RI-246i 'More Crimes of SP Mithoff (Snr C/S INT)' 30 July 95
RI-247i '..Potential Murderer Mithoff (Snr C/S INT)' 1 Aug 95
RI-247i-A 'Dwindling Power of Mithoff (Snr C/S INT)' 3 Aug 95
RI-249i 'Whom Mithoff (Snr C/S INT) Actually Fights' 3 Aug 95
RI-275i 'Ray Mithoff KNEW that Miscavige was an SP' 26 Oct 95
RI-276i 'An SP (Mithoff) Can Not Leave by Himself' of 8 Oct 95
RI-277i 'A Suppressive (Mithoff) Wants to be Trusted' 8 Oct 95
RI-342i 'LRH: Practical Stuff Scientology should be' 8 Nov 95
RI-295i 'LRH on How He Committed Suicide in Jan 1986' 17 Oct 95
RI-290i 'How LRH Contributed to Quentin's Death' of 16 Oct 95
RI-291i 'Fake Ron's Journal 38 tape still sold by Church' 16 Oct 95
RI-292i 'LRH (himself now) on the old Guardian Office' 16 Oct 95
RI-293i 'Mary Sue Hubbard confronts her husband' 16 Oct 95
RI-294i 'How Diana Hubbard allowed her father's suicide' 16 Oct 95
RI-297i 'Heber Jentzsch (Pres. INT) on LRH - IMPORTANT!' 19 Oct 95
RI-298i 'Guillaume (ED INT) on LRH's High Treason' 19 Oct 95
RI-299i 'Mark Ingber (CO CMO INT) on LRH' of 20 Oct 1995
RI-317i 'LRH is "RIGHT FOREVER"' of 25 Oct 1995
RI-320i 'Major Scientology Victory Today with LRH' 27 Oct 95
RI-334i 'Anti-Scientology OSA-"PR" on Internet - Corrected' 1 Nov 95
RI-336i 'LRH since 1966: 'POLICY IS SENIOR TO PEOPLE' 4 Nov 95
RI-345i 'What LRH is now Withholding from Koos' of 10 Nov 1995
RI-39i 'SEC CHECK on LRH - Extremely Important Data' 18 Dec 95
RI-29i 'Koos, LRH, Miscavige - the Truth' of 7 Dec 1994
RI-343i 'Guillaume (ED INT) on How to Remove Mithoff' 9 Nov 95
RI-346i 'Ingber (CO CMO INT) on How to Remove Mithoff' 11 Nov 95
RI-347i 'Heber (Pres. INT) on How to Remove Mithoff' 11 Nov 95
RI-348i 'Reactions about my work' of 11 Nov 1995
RI-10i 'Confronting a Suppressive' of 12 Oct 1994
RI-14i 'SPs in Scientology's Safe Space' of 23 Oct 1994
RI-24i 'Definition of 'PTS' - IMPORTANT' of 19 Nov 1994
RI-53i 'Past Life Criminals and Scn Ethics' of 29 Jul 1994
RI-58i 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
RI-9i 'SEC CHECK of Miscavige ...' of 1 Oct 1994
RI-183i 'Super Criminal Miscavige's Crimes on MSH & PB' 19 May 95
RI-231i 'A Suppressive Act of Mary Sue Hubbard' of 11 July 1995
RI-233i 'SP-Declare Mary Sue Hubbard' of 12 July 1995
RI-255i 'Correction to Scn's WWW-pages' of 13 Aug 1995
RI-269i 'How to Handle Irresponsible People' of 26 Sept 1995
RI-288i 'The Main Evil Purpose' of 15 Oct 1995
RI-50RNi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - The Future' of 28 Dec 1994
Revised and Replaced on 20 August 95
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