28 December 1995



             RI-427i  'More on RTC's takeover'


from Ron's Inspector


Message # RI-427i for Internet




HCO Sec Check on L. Ron Hubbard, on 28 Dec 1995, 05:40 GMT

[Auditor:] What about the signatures
            [signing the Trademarks, etc.
             over to RTC]?  F
(see RI-424i 'LRH wants non-Church Scnists destroyed' of 27 Dec 95)

(Ron does not want to answer)

[Koos to LRH:] Your game is over,
                the game of
                 lying, and
                 cheating, and
                 manipulating, and
                 hiding, and
                 covering up;
                that game is over.

               You have played that game with impunity
                 since 1966.
               It is ending now.

               So please answer the question.


[LRH:] "RTC was my attempt to control the Church of Scientology.

(see however:
  RI-428i 'The whole of RTC is fake, according to LRH' of 28 Dec 1995
 and see:
  RI-426i 'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 28 Dec 1995)


"Around 1982 my control of the Churches had decreased.

"I am not talking about
  to what extent it had decreased,   LFBD
  nor how it came to it.
 I am not talking about,
  that since January 1966 - the creation of the Guardian Office -
    I WANTED to be irresponsible
     for the Churches of Scientology, and that
    I WANTED Suppressive Persons
      in the Guardian Office,
   which means
    I WANTED Scientologists
     be controlled by Suppressive Persons, and
     be destroyed.

"In 1982 I had to disband the Guardian Office,
 the GO, which I enforced on the Churches to the last moment.
      [It was attacked by the US-government (Note by Koos)]

"My communication into the Church organisations
  was so
   that I was 'the Founder' for them,  LFBD
   that my Policies were adopted as official Church Policy
     by the Church of Scientology International,
   that I was asked for advice
    which was issued as Policy Letters.

"But I did not have a direct grip on what was going on.


"After I decided to disband the Guardian Office,
  I wanted to be RIGHT
   about having put a Guardian Office there
    with its Suppressive Persons.


"I wanted to be RIGHT that
  'I [it was ME who] was the one who always stated
    "we have to be tough and on our guard
     for sloppiness and 'overt products' [destructive products] and suppression".'

[LRH:] "I wanted to fill the gap
 which the Guardian Office left,
 with a Religious Technology Center:  LFBD
  in order to be RIGHT - with the 'proof'
   that I myself [as opposed to the Guardian Office]
    never wanted technology
     be thwarted,
    [be] degraded, or
    [be] used for destructive ends.


"And I wanted a central organisation
  over the Churches of Scientology
   with which I could enforce my [earlier] intention.


"RTC was another by-pass of the Church of Scientology International,
 and was my attempt to control the Church organisations.
(see however,
  RI-426i 'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 28 Dec 95)

"I wanted to be forcefully RIGHT, and
 I wanted to cover up my intention
  to dominate and destroy the Churches
 which I had done
  by instituting a suppressive organisation
  - the Guardian Office -
  over the Churches.  LFBD


"Miscavige had the force and intention
  to hover over the Churches and
  to execute all my orders 'against any "odds"',  LFBD
   meaning AGAINST [anything] (in the first place),
   and then against Scientologists in the Church organisations
    [in the second place].  LFBD


"This was Miscavige's evil intention
 and also my evil intention:
  I wanted to be 'real tough now!'
(see however,
  RI-426i 'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 28 Dec 95)


"There was this compulsion [to be real tough now]
  in my decisions at that time,
 and MY evil intentions
  to dominate the Church of Scientology.

"I know, it doesn't make sense what I did.

"I wanted that Scientology
  does not get altered or destroyed,
 and
 I destroyed it myself,
  by using Suppressive Persons.


"Had I wanted to be responsible for the Church of Scientology,
  I would have given the care for Copyrights and Trademarks
   to some responsible staffmember, a Scientologist.

"Had I wanted to be responsible for Scientology in the world,
  I might have decided to abandon the Copyright altogether and
  I might have given it to humanity as a free gift.

"Although - considering all the abuses
   which could be done with it -
  I do not like to familiarize myself with this concept.
(see however,
  RI-426i 'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 28 Dec 1995)

"No, in fact I am opposed to it.


"'I need someone
   supervising, and
   regulating,
   controlling
    "what is being done with the Tech".'  LFBD

"This was my thought in 1982.  LFBD


"There was no ceremony about the formation of RTC,
  no big event,
  it was
   an overt [crime] on Scientologists, and
   an overt [crime] on the Churches of Scientology.


"RTC was INTENDED to dominate
  Scientologists and the Church of Scientology."
(see however,
  RI-428i 'The whole of RTC is fake, according to LRH' of 28 Dec 95)



[Question from Jutta to LRH:] Who wrote LRH ED 346 INT
                                of 10 May 1982?
                              (To: My friends,
                               From: Ron,
                               Subject: The SO#1 Line)

(Read to Ron)
(Ron doesn't want to answer)
(Read to Ron again)

[LRH:] "I have written it.
 But it is a justification
  for my irresponsibility with the Guardian Office."


[Note by Auditor:] The LRH ED 346 INT
  was written on 10 May 1982.
 An HCOPL of 6 March 1982
  still mentions the Guardian Office.



[Question from Jutta to LRH:] In spring, March 1982,
                               the Guardian Office
                                was still in existence.
                              When was it disbanded?

[LRH:] "In July 1982."


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] When was RTC established?

"August 1982.
 It was established and started functioning at the time."


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] Who planned RTC and when?
                              Was it already planned
                               before the Guardian Office
                                was disbanded?  LF

"In 1982 a Watch Dog Committee existed
  to look into the affairs of the Guardian Office,
   into the Guardian Office.

([Note by Auditor:] In 1980
  per HCO PL 11 Dec 1980RA 'The Executive Director International'
  the Guardian Office came under the ED INT.)


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] Who planned RTC, and when?

"RTC was planned before the Guardian Office was disbanded.
 It was part of Miscavige's takeover of power.
 I was not taking responsibility for the Guardian Office.


"While the Guardian Office was still in existence until 1982,
  MISCAVIGE,
  MARC YAGER, and
  RAY MITHOFF
    planned RTC, and
    submitted the concept to me, and
    made me interested
     to have a strong organisation,
      with an RTC  LFBD's
     stronger than the Guardian Office, and
     more effective, and
     taking care of
      [HCO Policy Letter] 'Keeping Scientology Working',  LFBD
       which was of main concern to me.


"I did not take responsibility for the Guardian Office,
 and I saw in an RTC a possibility
  to get stronger, more powerful guys
   - more suppressive as I admit now -
   on the job,
  to again do things for me,  LFBD
   [things] which I didn't want to do anymore
    by myself since 1966.


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] When was the transfer
                               of the Copyright to RTC signed?

"In mid 1982: August 1982."


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] By whom was it signed?  LF

"By me, and by Miscavige."  LFBD


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] Who was taken on staff in RTC
                               at the beginning?

"Vicky Aznaran,
 Miscavige,
 Yager,
 Mithoff."


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] When were the lawyers [for RTC] hired
                               or employed?
                              Which were the first lawyers?

                              Are they still the same?
                              If not, who was employed or used later
                                as a lawyer, additionally?

"Attorney: Joe (Joseph) Yanny
 Attorney: C. Cooley
 Attorney: John G. Peterson

"These are all Scientologists."


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] What was Miscavige's role in RTC
                               in the beginning?

"Chairman of RTC."  LF's


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] When were
                               Guardian Office terminals [staff]
                               sued in court?
                              When did Mary Sue go to prison
                               and for how long?

"[In] 1979 [Guardian Office staff were] sued in court.

"[In] 1980 Mary Sue [went] in prison,
  for three years."  LFBD


[Question from Jutta to LRH:] Did Mary Sue live with you
                               until January 1986?

"Yes, she did.

 F/Nind
             L. Ron Hubbard"


                                          Total hours: 08:02 min

                Highly specialized LRH OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
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Koos Nolst Trenite - Ron's Inspector

Copyright 1995 by Koos Nolst Trenite


 references:
  RI-422i  'Where Was LRH Hiding before 1986' of 23 Dec 1995
  RI-426i  'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 28 Dec 1995
  RI-428i  'The whole of RTC is fake, according to LRH' of 28 Dec 1995

  RI-3Ri   'Sec Check on [the now removed] Marc Yager' of 14 Sept 94
  RI-240i  'Criminal Marc Yager now Removed from CoS!' of 19 July 1995
  RI-276i  'An SP (Mithoff) Can Not Leave by Himself' of 8 Oct 95
  RI-366Ri 'Present CoS Head, Mithoff, Removed From Scn!' of 19 Nov 95

  RI-111i  'The evil Justice Chief System' of 16 Mar 1995
  RI-173i  'Mary Sue on deposed Guardian WW Jane Kember' of 8 May 1995
  RI-183i  'Super Criminal Miscavige's Crimes on MSH & PB' of 19 May 1995
  RI-211i  'LRH on Mary Sue and Jane Kember' of 12 Jun 1995
  RI-231i  'A Suppressive Act of Mary Sue Hubbard' of 11 July 1995
  RI-232i  'C/S FOR the Person - VERY IMPORTANT' of 12 July 1995


  RI-416i  'LRH "Being in harmony with Miscavige"' of 15 Dec 95
  RI-417i  'LRH Fused with Miscavige' of 19 Dec 1995
  RI-418i  'Ethics Conditions for LRH' of 20 Dec 1995
  RI-420i  'Why Koos is a friend of LRH despite all' 20 Dec 1995

  RI-421i  'The Charges against LRH' of 21 Dec 1995
  RI-423i  'Koos makes more friends than enemies for us' 23 Dec 95
  RI-424i  'LRH wants non-Church Scnists destroyed' of 27 Dec 95
  RI-424i-A 'More on LRH's Evil Intentions on Scnists' 27 Dec 95

  RI-400i  'LRH on those who "defend" him' of 6 Dec 1995
  RI-407i  'Cleanup of ALL Scientologists' of 13 Dec 1995
  RI-408i  'Emotional Charge about LRH - handling' of 13 Dec 95
  RI-409i  'Seeing LRH' of 16 Dec 1995

  RI-412i  'Newsflash - The Withhold of LRH' of 18 Dec 1995
  RI-414i  'The Withhold of L. Ron Hubbard pulled' of 18 Dec 95
  RI-415i  'How LRH is destroying Scientology' of 15 Dec 1995

  RI-361i  'Why LRH invited SP 'OT's' as staff (GOLD!)' 17 Nov 95
  RI-362i  'The incident EVERY Scientologist MUST know' 17 Nov 95
  RI-368i  'The War is On - Truth Revealed' of 20 Nov 1995
  RI-369i  'The Background of Scientology's Intolerance' 20 Nov 95


  RI-58i   'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
  RI-288i  'The Main Evil Purpose' of 15 Oct 1995



  RI-50RPi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - The Future' of 28 Dec 1994
               Revised and Replaced on 12 November 95

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