28 December 1995
                                          revised on 18 Feb 1996


RI-428Ri  'The whole of RTC is fake, according to LRH' (Revised)


from Ambassador for Mankind (Ron's Inspector)


Message # RI-428Ri for Internet

[Revised to take into account
 new data revealed up to 18 Feb 1996.]




HCO Sec Check on L. Ron Hubbard, on 28 Dec 1995, 17:12 GMT
(Reported per HCOPL 'Confessionals - Ethics Reports Required')


[Auditor:] What about the signatures [transferring the
            Copyrights of all your Scientology works
             to 'RTC']?

[LRH:] "I signed. [David] Miscavige signed.
 This was all legal."


[Koos to LRH:] This is all extremely strange
                and extremely hidden,
                 so, out with the truth!

[LRH:] "What is STRANGE about it?

"I decided to help the creation
 of an organization [Religious Technology Center]
  which at the time I considered valuable.


"Strange and out-ethics from my viewpoint
  regarding Miscavige now, is,
 that I did not give the Copyrights
  to the 'Church of Scientology;',
   as a legal terminal
 [but
  to 'RTC'].

"Strange that I created an Organization ['RTC']
  [to be senior and]
   above [over] all other Scientology Organizations."



[Koos to LRH:] Getting Miscavige trained
                as a Notary Public
                 and then having it signed - by him only -
                is about as hidden as you can get on the matter.

[LRH:] "How that?
 The next day everybody knew about it!
 That 'RTC' had gotten the Copyrights, etc.
 And legally nothing else was needed, no other signature.

"The Copyright - my possession - donated to 'RTC'."


[Koos to LRH:] And who was 'RTC'?

[LRH:] "An organization of terminals or posts,
  which was having a goal,
  which had an Org-board, and
  was planned to be an international network
  which had to be staffed, one after the other."


[Koos to LRH:] WHO had the legal power in 'RTC'?

[LRH:] "The Chairman, which was Miscavige."


[Koos to LRH:] Was he the sole signatory?

[LRH:] "No, he was not.

"But for the transaction,
  only HIS signature was needed."


[Koos to LRH:] Do you mean the transaction
                of transferring the Copyrights?

[LRH:] "Yes."


[Koos to LRH:] So how many signatures were needed
                to form a legal order from 'RTC'?
               And whose signatures were needed
                to form a legal order from 'RTC'?

[LRH:] "Two signatures.
 [David] Miscavige's and [Ray] Mithoff's."


[Koos to LRH:] And whose, after we removed Miscavige?

[LRH:] "I haven't looked at that.
 I haven't cared about that."

[Koos to LRH:] You mean when you formed 'RTC'
                or when we removed Miscavige?

[LRH:] "When we removed Miscavige."

(...)

[Koos to LRH:] They are registered as a business.
               Isn't it.
               So they must also register in Court
                who the members of the Board are, and
                who are legally signatories.
               Is that correct?

[LRH:] "Maybe. It is different from State to State
  and country to country."


[Koos to LRH:] Now you did set this up yourself, in 1982,
                so how was it?"

[LRH:] "'RTC' has various functions, and
 signatures can be given
  by a number of terminals [staff]
   according to the importance of the matter."


[Koos to LRH:] Where are the members of the Board registered,
                in which State?

[LRH:] "California."


[Koos to LRH:] You wanted to have control.
               You would have stayed a member of the Board
                or the Chairman of the Board till your death.
               Why and how did you relinquish that control?

[LRH:] "That might have been the case
 that I relinquished that control...

"It WAS actually so that I relinquished that control,
 but I made myself believe
  - as I am not looking at it only as a First Dynamic [self],
    but as a Third Dynamic [group] -
 that
  I participate in every bit of action:
   'These guys are working FOR me...'
     [was the] consideration."


[Koos to LRH:] What reasons did you give yourself
                for not being the Chairman of 'RTC'?

[LRH:] "'I was the spirit three feet behind everything.'
 I was active in a much broader scope than being Chairman."


[Koos to LRH:] This is all very strange.
               You could have been
                the Chairman of the Board of 'RTC', and
                given Miscavige
                 the proxy [authority to act for another]
                 to act FOR YOU in any and all matters.
               Why did you not do that?

[LRH:] "This was not my intention.
 Since 1966 I let others work for me
   in the physical universe and
  I would give Policies
   additionally to those they have already."


[Koos to LRH:] Control and letting others work for you
                would have been done by giving a proxy.
               So why was that not done?

[LRH:] "I did not want to."


[Koos to LRH:] Can you say anything more about that?

[LRH:] "I was busy with 'OT' research,
 I also did not become member of any other Board.
 I still gave them my Policies."


[Koos to LRH:] Now, your friends would like
                to have some understanding of this:
                  Why did you order Miscavige
                  to do a Notary Public course
                    which is completely off purpose
                     and a total waste of time
                    for any Scientology executive?

[LRH:] Why shouldn't I?
 It's a very useful job for a Chairman of 'RTC'."


[Koos to LRH:] Please answer the question: Why did you?

[Koos to LRH:] Was it YOUR idea
                to get Miscavige to do a Notary Public course?
                  LFBD LFBD's

"No!
 It was Miscavige's idea."


[Koos to LRH:] So, tell me about it!

[LRH:] "It was Miscavige's idea:
 The concept:
  'RTC' will give Licences away
   [to the Churches and Missions of Scientology,
    even to single field-auditors.
    The idea was to completely dominate anyone
     who wanted to use Scientology. (Note by Koos)].

"Licences to use Trademarks,
 Licences to open Missions,
 and so
  it will be useful
   if he has the knowledge of the laws
   and ALSO the legal power
    to act as a Notary in many other cases..."

[Koos to LRH:] What other cases?

[LRH:] "In above cases:
 giving Licences to use the Trademarks etc."


[Koos to LRH:] Does one need a Notary Public
                in order to give such Licences?

[LRH:] "That was the idea. Yes."


[Koos to LRH:] And Miscavige wanted to be that Notary?

[LRH:] "Yes."


[Koos to LRH:] So, Miscavige made up the legal deed
                transferring
                 all your Copyrights and Trademarks to 'RTC',
                and made himself the Chairman of the Board of 'RTC',
                 is that correct?

[LRH:] "Yes."


[Koos to LRH:] So could he have also done this
                without you present,
                  as imitating your signature
                  was a very well known practice, and
                   people were trained to imitate your signature?

[LRH:] "Theoretically yes!

[Koos to LRH:] Miscavige forged a whole tape
                as if it was spoken by you,
                called
                 Ron's Journal 38 "Today, Tomorrow, The Proof"
                which was done
                 to establish the power of 'RTC'
                 in the minds of all Scientologists
                  as if this was fully sanctioned
                   and supported by you.
       (see RI-291i 'Fake Ron's Journal 38 tape still sold by Church'
               of 16 Oct 95)

               Miscavige would NOT have had to do that
                if 'RTC' indeed HAD been fully sanctioned
                 and supported by you.

               Furthermore, you have stated
                that you were very much overwhelmed by
                 (or in Scientology terms, 'PTS to') Miscavige,
                to such an extent
                 that you were completely unable to
                  apply any standard Scientology technology
                   to Miscavige;
                to such an extent
                 that you were completely unable
                  to see the actual intentions of Miscavige,
                 and were fully unable to predict
                  or be properly informed about
                   Miscavige's actions.

               Together with the datum
                 that Miscavige was the only signatory
                  to the deed,
                  to the transfer, [and]
                 that you did not appear yourself
                   as the Chairman of the Board
                  who could have given Miscavige
                  - or anybody else - a full proxy,
                it is logical to conclude
                 that Miscavige put you
                  in front of an accomplished fact
                 and that it did not matter
                  whether you yourself would sign
                   the deed of transfer or not.

               Also, your signatures on it
                 have been found by experts to be forgeries.

[Koos to LRH:] Would you care to comment on this?

(Comm lag [hesitation] of Ron)

[Koos to LRH:] Or would you rather not comment on this?

[LRH:] "I like to comment on that."


[Koos to LRH:] Good, WHAT would you like to comment on that?
               The point is
                that it didn't really matter
                whether you signed or not,
                and probably you didn't sign
                 the deed of transfer,
                but we assume that you were notified of it.

               What would you like to comment?
               LFBD's LFBD's LFBD's

[LRH:] "I have been overwhelmed.

"Like with the [fake] tape,
  I have been NOTIFIED of the facts AFTER the deed."


[Koos to LRH:] How long after the fact
                have you been notified of the fact, and
               HOW have you been notified, and
               BY WHOM have you been notified?

[LRH:] "Miscavige informed me about it,
  one month after he forged the document."


[Koos to LRH:] What was your physical location?
               And when was it?
               What was your emotional reaction to it?

[LRH:] "I was in Hemet [California].
 It was in September 1982.
 My first reaction was great anger.

"Then I started to admire the guts of this guy - Miscavige.

"The more I reflected upon the practical side of 'RTC'
  having the Copyrights
   and Trademarks instead of me,
 the more I could agree with it, and
 the more justifications I found."


[Koos to LRH:] Who was in the conspiracy with Miscavige?

[LRH:] "Yager and Mithoff."


[Koos to LRH:] What would you have done
                 after the Guardian Office was disbanded,
                if Miscavige had NOT stolen your
                  Copyrights and Trademarks?

[LRH:] "The point is, I wouldn't have done anything else.

"I wanted to do further research, and solo-audit,
  issue new Rundowns, etc."



[Koos to LRH:] I want to indicate to you now
                that you were 'solo-auditing'

                 over very heavy 'out-ruds',

                [over] very serious and heavy
                  unhandled 'ARCX's [upsets],

                [over] unhandled,
                  uncommunicated and
                   missed
                   withholds of magnitude,

                 over very heavy 'Out-Lists'  LF's

                 with many evil intentions unhandled,
                  not audited out,

                 while being 'PTS Type A',

                 over the 'by-passed charge'
                  on your state of Clear
                   (which we recently
                    have started to take up)  LF's
                 (see RI-373i 'LRH's STATE OF CLEAR Rehabilitated!!'
                   of 22 Nov 1995), and

                 over unhandled 'by-passed charge'
                   on various of the lower OT-Levels.  LFBD's



[Koos to LRH:] What would you have done
                 after the Guardian Office was disbanded,
                if Miscavige had NOT stolen your
                 Copyrights and Trademarks?

[LRH:] "I continued to do those things I wanted to do,
 which I started to enumerate,
  [doing further research, etc.].


"I was not hindered
  by 'RTC' having the Copyrights.

"[But] it was a break in [my own] integrity and
  [it was] Treason on my friends.

"I justified [the fact]
  that I took no legal action against Miscavige
 with:

  'I wanted a Religious Technology Center.'

  'I did not need money derived from the Copyrights.'  LFBD

  'It facilitated the work of "RTC"  LFBD
     when they had the Copyrights.'  LFBD

  'I had given them the task of
     "Keeping Scientology Working", etc. etc.'"




[Koos to LRH:] Is it an act of friendship of Koos
                to pull [find out] your withholds?

[LRH:] "Yes, it is!"


[Koos to LRH:] Do you NOW
                still want to keep all Scientologists
                'PTS to' [overwhelmed by the suppression of]
                 Miscavige?

[LRH:] "No!" [Note by Koos: This is a lie.
                LRH very strongly is preventing Scientologists
                 from finding out about Miscavige.]


[Koos to LRH:] Do you NOW
                still want to destroy
                  Koos and (...)
                  others
                in order to keep this
                 crime and conspiracy and treason a secret?

[LRH:] "No." [Note by Koos: This is also a lie of LRH.]



[Koos to LRH:] How were your friends declared suppressive
                 and thrown out, around 1981 and 1982?  LFBD

[LRH:] "They were accused by 'RTC'
 of grossly altering Tech,
 of maliciously wanting to destroy Scientology,
 [they:]
   Bill Robertson,
   David Mayo, etc.


"[The HCO Policy Letter] 'Keeping Scientology Working'
  [is] the justification.

"[The HCO Policy Letter] 'Keeping Scientology Working'
 furnished 'RTC's justification
 AND my justification:

    '[Point] 10 [of that HCOPL]:
       Closing the door on incorrect application of Tech.
       Doing it with ferocity.'


"If someone was found to not be '100 percent on Tech'
 he had had it:
   His intention was not looked at.
   His former contribution to me, to Scientology,
    was not looked at, didn't count.



"The pattern
   [of Miscavige towards LRH and LRH towards Miscavige,
    a pattern which LRH 'admired so much']
  repeated:

   I was informed only AFTER the fact
     that someone got an SP-declare;
    with ample, angry explanations I got informed,
   so that it became very plausible to me
    why someone had to go.


"And I declared actual friends suppressive,
 and Miscavige and Co. in 'RTC', were my "friends"
   - 'the tough guys who mercilessly eradicated
       'bank [reactive mind] agreements'
      and had no half-hearted approach
       to "keeping Scientology working"'.


"Those who HAD 'ARC' [Affinity, Reality, Communication],
 those who WERE self-determined,
 those who were ABLE to differentiate
   between toughness and survival 'ARC',
  [those people] were THROWN OUT.


"Those who didn't do 'as they were told'
   but wanted to be effective
   and wanted to help their fellow men,
  were THROWN OUT.

"People who self-determinedly wanted to help
  - [those were] the most valuable beings -
  were THROWN OUT!

"Those with high 'ARC' for Scientologists and their fellow men,
  were THROWN OUT.

"Those who needed no orders
   but were able to look for themselves
   and evaluate correctly
   and had a high regard for their fellow men above anything else
 [were THROWN OUT].


LFBD-F/Nind


[Auditor:] [Is there anything you would like to] say or ask
             [before I end the session]?

[LRH:] "Thank you, Koos!

 F/Nind

                 L. Ron Hubbard"


                                          Total hours: 04:55 min

                Highly specialized LRH OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
           at 1,400 US $ per hour, makes 6,883 US $ total costs.


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1995, 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite


 references:
  RI-462i  'Corpses in L. Ron Hubbard's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' 25 Jan 96
  RI-466i  'SUPERNOVA in M33 - L. Ron Hubbard's Betrayal' 30 Jan 96
  RI-470i  'Confronting L. Ron Hubbard with "Bill Robertson"' 31 Jan 96

  RI-472i  'How L. Ron Hubbard defended his reputation in 1983' 3 Feb 96
  RI-475i  'L. Ron Hubbard, Strong AND Weak' of 6 Feb 1996
  RI-476i  'LRH could be strong, but is very weak indeed' 6 Feb 96
  RI-477i  'L. Ron Hubbard as a Security Risk' of 7 Feb 1996

  RI-478i  'Agreements with L. Ron Hubbard?' of 8 Feb 1996
  RI-479i  'LRH: "I Would Lose 100,000 Scientologists"' of 8 Feb 96
  RI-479i-A  'With HONESTY, LRH Would GAIN 100,000's of Scnists' 14 Feb 96
  RI-483i  'What Went...Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Summary' 16 Feb 96

  RI-334i  'Anti-Scn OSA-"PR" on Internet - Corrected' 1 Nov 95

  RI-422i  'Where Was LRH Hiding before 1986' of 23 Dec 1995
  RI-426i  'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 28 Dec 1995
  RI-427i  'More on RTC's takeover' of 28 Dec 1995

  RI-3i    'Sec Check on Marc Yager' of 14 Sept 94
  RI-276i  'An SP (Mithoff) Can Not Leave by Himself' of 8 Oct 95
  RI-291i  'Fake Ron's Journal 38 tape still sold by Church' of 16 Oct 95

  RI-111i  'The evil Justice Chief System' of 16 Mar 1995
  RI-173i  'Mary Sue on deposed Guardian WW Jane Kember' of 8 May 1995
  RI-183i  'Super Criminal Miscavige's Crimes on MSH & PB' of 19 May 1995
  RI-211i  'LRH on Mary Sue and Jane Kember' of 12 Jun 1995
  RI-231i  'A Suppressive Act of Mary Sue Hubbard' of 11 July 1995
  RI-232i  'C/S FOR the Person - VERY IMPORTANT' of 12 July 1995


  RI-416i  'LRH "Being in harmony with Miscavige"' of 15 Dec 95
  RI-417i  'LRH Fused with Miscavige' of 19 Dec 1995
  RI-418i  'Ethics Conditions for LRH' of 20 Dec 1995
  RI-420i  'Why Koos is a friend of LRH despite all' 20 Dec 1995

  RI-421i  'The Charges against LRH' of 21 Dec 1995
  RI-423i  'Koos makes more friends than enemies for us' 23 Dec 95
  RI-424i  'LRH wants non-Church Scnists destroyed' of 27 Dec 95
  RI-424i-A 'More on LRH's Evil Intentions on Scnists' 27 Dec 95

  RI-400i  'LRH on those who "defend" him' of 6 Dec 1995
  RI-407i  'Cleanup of ALL Scientologists' of 13 Dec 1995
  RI-408i  'Emotional Charge about LRH - handling' of 13 Dec 95
  RI-441i  'Edison versus L. Ron Hubbard' of 4 Jan 1996

  RI-412i  'Newsflash - The Withhold of LRH' of 18 Dec 1995
  RI-414i  'The Withhold of L. Ron Hubbard pulled' of 18 Dec 95
  RI-415i  'How LRH is destroying Scientology' of 15 Dec 1995

  RI-361i  'Why LRH invited SP 'OT's' as staff (GOLD!)' 17 Nov 95
  RI-362i  'The incident EVERY Scientologist MUST know' 17 Nov 95
  RI-368i  'The War is On - Truth Revealed' of 20 Nov 1995
  RI-369i  'The Background of Scientology's Intolerance' 20 Nov 95


  RI-58i   'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
  RI-288i  'The Main Evil Purpose' of 15 Oct 1995



  RI-50RPi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - The Future' of 28 Dec 1994
               Revised and Replaced on 12 November 95

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