26 January 1996



        RI-463i  'Mary Sue Hubbard Rehabilitated by Koos'


from (Ron's Inspector) Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-463i for Internet




HCO Sec Check on L. Ron Hubbard on 25 Jan 1996, 21:22 GMT

(Reported per HCOPL 'Confessionals - Ethics Reports Required')


[Auditor:] What other intentionally false data
            have you given Koos,
             since you caved in
              Guillaume Lesevre [Exec Dir International]
               on 14 January 1995?
             (see RI-462i 'Corpses in LRH's Cupboard - IMPORTANT'
                  of 25 Jan 1996)

[LRH:] "The data about Mary Sue were wrong.
 Where she lives."
  [Mary Sue Hubbard-Whipp, the wife of L. Ron Hubbard.
   She played a major role
    in Scientology and
    in helping L. Ron Hubbard.]


[Auditor:] [Is what you NOW say, correct?]
            What intentionally false data
             are you giving RIGHT NOW on that subject?

[LRH:] "The answer is correct;
 and has even been verified:
  [...] found out that there is no such
  telephone-number [as I gave you for Mary Sue]."

(...)

[Koos to LRH:] What was your motive
                for intentionally giving Koos false data
                 about where Mary Sue lives,
                while at the same time
                 suggesting strongly to Koos
                  to write to her or even phone her?

[LRH:] "Koos took me totally by surprise
 to want [financial] support via Mary Sue from me.
(see RI-174i 'Support for LRH back in Scientology' of 10 May 95)


"I objected to [me being asked to]
  handle things for Koos in the physical universe.

"[But] To look at her ARCX's [upsets] with me and others,
 to handle her [emotional] charge,
  was in agreement with me."
(see RI-293i 'Mary Sue Hubbard Confronts her Husband' 16 Oct 95)


[Koos to Auditor:] Repeat the question,
                    because this is not an answer to the question.
                    It is not a motive and intention.


[Koos to Auditor:] LRH's intention
                    has been and continues to be
                     'to kick Koos out of the physical universe'.

                   This is a long standing evil intention of him [of LRH]
                    and this is also why at various times
                     he suggested that you [Auditor]
                      run the Interiorization Rundown on me
                      which has for instance in it the command
                       "Recall a time
                        when you were kicked out of spaces".

                   He carefully withheld, though,
                    that HE had and has this evil intention
                     on me very strongly.

                   We know now that he is
                    dramatizing the intentions
                     of the main Suppressive Person on his case,
                      called Xenu.

                   Ron [LRH, L. Ron Hubbard] is confusing
                     his own self-determinism
                    with
                     'determining the life of others',
                   AND
                    he is very strongly
                      trying to prevent others
                       from looking at him.
                  (These are two MAJOR characteristics
                    of an anti-social personality).



[LRH:] "Regarding Mary Sue:

"My intention was
  TO MAKE KOOS BELIEVE
   that
    'I want that Mary Sue
     takes responsibility again
      for the situation in Scientology and
      for Koos's intention to handle that'."


[Koos to LRH:] That is the false data itself
                and still not an answer
                 [about his intention behind it].


[LRH:] "I did not want to be responsible
 for Mary Sue's ethics [survival].

"I did NOT want to make her contribute to Koos.
 I did NOT want Koos contributed to.

"And I attempted to show to Koos
 that
  'Mary Sue is not interested in any responsibility
    for the Church of Scientology,
   and wants to remain out of contact'."


[Koos to LRH:] I indicate to you [LRH]
                that YOU ARE ALSO A
                SUPPRESSIVE PERSON TO MARY SUE
                 because you kicked her out [of Scientology],
                and, more so,
                [because] you have the very strong intention
                 to also kick her [the being, the spirit]
                  out of the physical universe,
                  for the same reason as we know already from others:
                   THAT SHE DOES NOT LOOK AT YOUR CRIMES,
                   but mostly
                   THAT SHE WILL BE PREVENTED FROM
                    COMMUNICATING THESE [CRIMES] TO ANYBODY.

               She would be a very expert witness
                 on your crimes of course,
                which you even sent her to prison for [around 1980]
                 so that others would continue to think
                  that YOU are NOT committing any crimes
                  and only have good intentions,
                   now and since eternity.

               So THE ACTUAL MOTIVE was
                that Koos would not start talking to Mary Sue and
                that Koos would not bring her back to life
                 so that she finally would
                  start to take some responsibility for you again.



               To put it in a very few words:

                YOU HAVE
                 COMPLETELY CAVED MARY SUE IN AND
                 DESTROYED HER
                AND YOU INTEND TO
                 KEEP IT THAT WAY.



[Auditor to LRH:] What other false data
                   have you given Koos about Mary Sue?

[LRH:] "That she went to prison out of HER own intention."
(see RI-233i 'SP-Declare Mary Sue Hubbard' of 12 July 1995)


[Koos to LRH:] What was the truth?

[LRH:] "I had said
 [to you, earlier, which are FALSE data:]

     '"Mary Sue WANTED to serve a prison sentence,
       in order
        that the attacks of the Government
         are limited
          to the Guardian Office [of the Church of Scientology,
           now called 'OSA' and 'RTC'], and
         [to] her, and
         [to] other terminals, and
       in order
        that I am completely left out, and
        that also the Church of Scientology
         does not come under discussion",
      in short:
       "to avert danger for me and for the Church of Scientology".'




"THE TRUTH IS:

 "She did NOT want to give the [US-]government
   such an easy 'win' and 'triumph'.

"Mary Sue upheld,
  that
   what the government did,
   was criminal, and
  that - legal or not -
   how she proceeded
     to get false HIDDEN data about Scientology found and
    [to get it] removed from government files, and also,
    [to] GET THE SOURCES [WHO WERE PLANTING]
     INTENTIONALLY FALSE DATA,
      nailed down,
   was being responsible for truth,
 and
 Mary Sue upheld,
  that it was a weakness, was an out-ethics,
   to NOT prevent or to NOT oppose a prison-sentence.


"And she gave me more reasons
  why and how it would be MORE survival
   to keep her OUT of prison.

"She did NOT consider it very 'OT' [spiritually responsible]
  to do what some Suppressive Persons
    from the [US-]government
   wanted her to do,
    which was:
     to be punished with imprisonment,
     while she was ACTUALLY
      trying to 'put ethics in' on the government
     [while she was actually
      trying to make the government more ethical]."



[Koos to LRH:] What was your motive in giving the FALSE data?

[LRH:] "It was
 to prevent you
  from looking at MY EVIL INTENTIONS ON MARY SUE.

"It was
 to prevent you
  from seeing
   that I did not want to have a long court case over the matter
   IN ORDER that I myself would not be drawn into the case."


[Auditor:] What intentionally false data
            are you giving right now on that subject?

[LRH:] "No false data.


            L. Ron Hubbard"


                                  Total session hours: 02:12 min

                Highly specialized LRH OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
            at 1,400 US $ per hour, makes 3,080 US $ total cost.


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite


 references:
  RI-462i 'Corpses in L. Ron Hubbard's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' of 25 Jan 96

  RI-293i 'Mary Sue Hubbard confronts her husband' of 16 Oct 1995
  RI-294i 'How Diana Hubbard allowed her father's suicide' 16 Oct 95
  RI-297i 'Heber Jentzsch (Pres. INT) on LRH - IMPORTANT!' 19 Oct 95
  RI-298i 'Guillaume (ED INT) on LRH's High Treason' 19 Oct 95
  RI-299i 'Mark Ingber (CO CMO INT) on LRH' of 20 Oct 1995

  RI-173i 'Mary Sue on deposed Guardian WW Jane Kember' 8 May 95
  RI-183i 'Super Criminal Miscavige's Crimes on MSH & PB' 19 May 95
  RI-211i 'LRH on Mary Sue and Jane Kember' of 12 Jun 1995
  RI-232i 'C/S FOR the Person - VERY IMPORTANT' of 12 July 1995
  RI-231i 'A Suppressive Act of Mary Sue Hubbard' of 11 July 1995
  RI-233i 'SP-Declare Mary Sue Hubbard' of 12 July 1995

  RI-9i   'SEC CHECK of Miscavige ...' of 1 Oct 1994
  RI-255i 'Correction to Scn's WWW-pages' of 13 Aug 1995
  RI-334i 'Anti-Scientology OSA-"PR" on Internet - Corrected' 1 Nov 95

  RI-286i 'When LRH deserted responsibility' of 15 Oct 1995
  RI-291i 'Fake Ron's Journal 38 tape still sold by Church' 16 Oct 95
  RI-292i 'LRH (himself now) on the old Guardian Office' 16 Oct 95
  RI-317i 'LRH is "RIGHT FOREVER"' of 25 Oct 1995
  RI-320i 'Major Scientology Victory Today with LRH' of 27 Oct 1995
  RI-336i 'LRH since 1966: 'POLICY IS SENIOR TO PEOPLE' 4 Nov 95

  RI-39i  'SEC CHECK on LRH - Extremely Important Data' 18 Dec 95
  RI-29i  'Koos, LRH, Miscavige - the Truth' of 7 Dec 1994


  RI-295i  'LRH on How He Committed Suicide in Jan 1986' 17 Oct 95
  RI-297i  'Heber Jentzsch (Pres. INT) on LRH - IMPORTANT!' 19 Oct 95
  RI-334i  'Anti-Scn OSA-''PR'' on Internet - Corrected' 1 Nov 95
  RI-344i  'LRH Deserted You Already in 1966' of 11 Nov 1995

  RI-361i  'Why LRH invited SP 'OT's' as staff (GOLD!)' 17 Nov 95
  RI-362i  'The incident EVERY Scientologist MUST know' 17 Nov 95

  RI-368i  'The War is On - Truth Revealed' of 20 Nov 1995
  RI-369i  'The Background of Scientology's Intolerance' 20 Nov 95

  RI-412i  'Newsflash - The Withhold of LRH' of 18 Dec 1995
  RI-414i  'The Withhold of L. Ron Hubbard pulled' of 18 Dec 95
  RI-415i  'How LRH is destroying Scientology' of 15 Dec 1995

  RI-416i  'LRH "Being in harmony with Miscavige"' of 15 Dec 95
  RI-417i  'LRH Fused with Miscavige' of 19 Dec 1995
  RI-418i  'Ethics Conditions for LRH' of 20 Dec 1995
  RI-419i  'OSA Won't Tell You What Scientology Is or Does' 19 Dec 95
  RI-420i  'Why Koos is a friend of LRH despite all' of 20 Dec 95
  RI-422i  'Where Was LRH Hiding before 1986' of 23 Dec 1995

  RI-429i  'The Actual Intentions of RTC and LRH' of 29 Dec 1995
  RI-431i  'ED INT Guillaume Completely Overwhelmed by LRH' 1 Jan 96
  RI-433i  'Why LRH employed anti-Scnist Kobrin (RTC-lawyer)' 1 Jan 96
  RI-434i  'Apparently Sane When Irresponsible - LRH' of 1 Jan 96


  RI-435i  'Talk with Bill. LRH dramatizes OT III.' of 31 Dec 1995
  RI-437i  'OT III still not 'flat' on LRH  -  part II' of 2 Jan 1996
  RI-438i  'LRH stuck in OT III' of 3 Jan 1996

  RI-427i  'More on RTC's takeover' of 28 Dec 1995
  RI-428i  'The whole of RTC is fake, according to LRH' 28 Dec 95

  RI-432i  'Punished for Reaching for Scientology' of 1 Jan 1996
  RI-433i  'Why LRH employed anti-Scnist Kobrin (RTC-lawyer)' 1 Jan 96
  RI-434i  'Apparently Sane When Irresponsible - LRH' 1 Jan 96

  RI-421i  'The Charges against LRH' of 21 Dec 1995

  RI-424i  'LRH wants non-Church Scnists destroyed' of 27 Dec 95
  RI-424i-A  'More on LRH's Evil Intentions on Scnists' 27 Dec 95
  RI-425i  'Standard Tech WAS NEVER ALLOWED inside the CofS' 25 Dec 95

  RI-426i  'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 26 Dec 95
  RI-441i  'Edison versus L. Ron Hubbard' of 4 Jan 1996

  RI-447i  'LRH: HELPING people - NOT "safeguarding my work"' 6 Jan 96
  RI-443Ri 'LRH: "To Safeguard BY ALL MEANS" is not ME!' 4 Jan 96


  RI-407i  'Cleanup of ALL Scientologists' of 13 Dec 1995
  RI-408i  'Emotional Charge about LRH - handling' of 13 Dec 95
  RI-409i  'Seeing LRH' of 16 Dec 1995



  RI-50RPi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - The Future' of 28 Dec 1994
               Revised and Replaced on 12 November 95

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