16 February 1996



RI-483i-D  'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part IV'


from Ambassador for Mankind (Ron's Inspector)


Message # RI-483i-D for Internet


(see RI-483i 'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Summary')
(see also
     RI-483i-A  'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part I'
     RI-483i-B  'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part II'
     RI-483i-C  'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part III')




This is Part IV of the transcript of the whole session
 of about eleven hours,
  a session which ended very spectacularly.

An ending
 which resolves
  an enormous amount
   of confusion
   about the person L. Ron Hubbard,
 resolving a major mystery
  about what went extremely extremely wrong,
   since LRH started to further research
    after he achieved the State of Clear
     in August 1965.


The statements of L. Ron Hubbard below are his own.

In later RI-Bulletins
 I will get him to correct or improve upon
  several of these statements,
 but the main revelation
  remains extremely valid.




Confessional on L. Ron Hubbard on 15 Feb 1996,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
(Reported per HCOPL 'Confessionals - Ethics Reports Required')


[Continued from
 RI-483i-C 'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part III'
  of 16 Feb 1996]


[Auditor to LRH:] I repeat the command:
                   Tell me the place of that overt [crime] and
                    when it was!  LFBD

[LRH:] "1985."  LFBD


[Koos to Auditor:] LRH has a script running, and the script is:
                    "What have I told Koos?"
                    "What do I want to tell Koos?" and
                    "What does Koos not know?".

                   This is in order to determine
                    what he can safely withhold, and,
                    how he nevertheless
                     can make a good impression as a
                     'PC' [person receiving spiritual counseling]
                       giving up withholds and
                       giving up overts [confessing crimes].

                   With somebody else he has another script.
                   With each person he has a different script.

                   He keeps these scripts
                    carefully walled off from each other.

                   What he confesses to one,
                    is still a withhold from the other.

                   So it is almost impossible
                    to get his [LRH's] integrity back in.

                   (This as a note to the auditor, and for myself.)


[Auditor to LRH:] I repeat the question:
                  Tell me the place of that overt and
                   when it was!  LFBD

[LRH:] "One time was 1985
 in the place where you lived, and
 in Zurich [Switzerland].

"Other places and times:
  roughly 1983, Saint Hill,
 and
  a time  LFBD
   when Jutta was auditing Koos,
    might have been 1984,
  I diminished both your confront,
   it was a 'PTS Rundown',
    [with the] item 'Mo Budlong/Hitler'.

"Koos confronted Hitler well,
  I wanted, too, that Koos confronted Hitler,  LFBD
 but I objected, in my no-confront,
  to the combination:  LFBD
   'Mo Budlong/known from before as Hitler'.  LFBD

"For one reason only:
  that I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE HAD A HITLER IN SCIENTOLOGY.

"That is, I refused to be responsible for that."  LFBD



[Auditor to LRH:] Name other Suppressive Persons
                   at the top of the Guardian Office.

[LRH:] "Geoff Sherwell,  F
 Blake Nikotin,  sF
 Marina Boulding,  F
 Rory Boulding."  LFBD LFBD


[Koos to LRH:] Finish your script, [of]
                what would be acceptable withholds to
                 get off and to
                 make known to Koos, and
               get into your OWN valence
                instead of pretending to be a 'PC'.

               You are first looking
                for what would be very extremely safe withholds
                 to get off, and
                then you are telling those, and
                 that is completely 'out of valence' [not being yourself].


[Auditor:] Name other Suppressive Persons
            of the Guardian Office.  LFBD

[LRH:] "I rather answer the question
  about what is very wrong,
 I don't have an answer to it,
  but I want to evaluate the state of affairs.


"What is very wrong,
 what is extremely wrong, is
  that I HAVE TURNED INTO A SUPPRESSIVE PERSON.


"When I went Clear,
 I wanted to get on, get on with the 'OT'-steps.

"I did NOT care about the physical universe.
 I did NOT care for my own achievements therein.  LF

"I did NOT use each ability gained
  on [an] 'OT'-step
   to HANDLE my surroundings with.  LFBD


"I did NOT set myself the task
  to handle - as I went along -
   more of the Dynamics [life's activities],
    NOT what I wrote to do:

     - get MORE in control
        of your First Dynamic [survival as self]

     - get MORE in control
        of your Second Dynamic [survival as family]
         (you know,
           put more Second Dynamic there,
           more ARC [Affinity, Reality, Communication,
                     making together Understanding],
           get more 'upstat' [better living conditions],
           more activity together with your
             Second Dynamic [family] members, and
           get other Second Dynamics [families] saner around you,
            etc. etc.)

     - get MORE in control
        of your Third Dynamic [survival as a group],
         working intensely
          with others of the Third Dynamic on it, etc. etc.

     - get MORE in control
        of the Fourth Dynamic [survival as Mankind].  LFBD

"And so along all Dynamics:
  more actual active work in it, and
   achievements branching out
    into helping other Third Dynamics [groups],
  enlarging the Third Dynamic,
   making it more popular,
   more effective, etc.,
   more accepted.

"Activity on the Dynamics,  LFBD
  MORE putting something created by me
   into the Dynamics,  LFBD
  as I would go ALONG WITH the OT-Levels,
   take more and more responsibility for life.


"What was very wrong was
  that I did NOT DO exactly what I described.

"I took LESS responsibility for the Third Dynamic.
 I controlled LESS on the Third Dynamic.

"Early 1966
  I gave control to a newly formed organization,
   the Guardian Office,
 and
  I put Suppressive Persons in it
   to do the controlling FOR me!

"Against the end of 1966
  I lessened my control in the Churches of Scientology.  LFBD

"I was thus no longer an executive,  F
  but I took the title "Founder"  LF
   instead,
   and this was like an
    epitaph [inscription in memory of a dead person]
     on my tombstone.

"Instead of being an executive  LF
  I became an 'Operating Thetan',
   without very much operating  LFBD
  because operating would really have been
   - as I described -
   to put more and more
    into Dynamics One to Eight [all areas of life], and
   take MORE responsibility and MORE control.


"I got busy to
  work out the OT-Levels and audit myself,
  work out more OT-Levels, and audit myself more,
 I worked out new processes,
 I audited myself on more OT-Levels.

"I did NOT use my OT-abilities
  to control Organizations BETTER and MORE.

"I had worked out how organizations
  could run "by themselves", WITHOUT me.

"I did NOT control MORE
  counter-postulates and
  counter-intentions to the Third Dynamic [the group]
  - I had the Guardian Office for it -
 and
  to control counter-intentions to survival
   on the Fourth Dynamic
    I also had in a sense
     the Guardian Office for it, and later
     the IAS [International Association of Scientologists].


"After the Guardian Office,
 I had the Religious Technology Center,
  to act in the physical universe and
   control certain aspects of organization.

"Also there I employed Suppressive Persons.
 And when Suppressive Persons are at work,
  control becomes bad control,
  becomes suppressive control and
   no longer good control
    with the aim to create survival.


"I did more research into the realms of 'OT'.
 I audited myself more,
 I gained more abilities,
  BUT I DID NOT EXERCISE THEM.

"I was no longer an executive on the Third Dynamic.

"This would have been considered a 'by-pass'.
  [Being and remaining in control,
   would have been considered
   'by-passing' those who were at the top.]

"I notice that's a justification
  for not having exercised my OT-abilities."


[Auditor:] Who would have considered it a 'by-pass'?

[LRH:] "Suppressives Persons like Miscavige,  sF
 Ray Mithoff.  F

"I did more research for the OT-Levels,
 I audited myself more,
 and
  when I had no more material to audit myself on,  LFBD
   I concluded: It's done!

"I must, I want to
  go somewhere else to find new material.

"Like a rabbit
  that has eaten all the carrots of one field and
   rushes over to the next field.

"So I 'rabbit-ted'.


"And I must say
  there is nothing wrong with the OT-Levels.  LFBD

"WHAT IS VERY WRONG IS
  WHEN THE ABILITIES
   DO NOT GET APPLIED TO LIFE.


"I gave Scientologists
  some similar enforced aberration
   (to not apply what one can do).

"Ethics of group members [staff] or [Scientology] public,
  is 'taken care of' by the Ethics and Justice system.

"An ordinary Scientology staffmember 'OT'
  doesn't take responsibility anymore
   for counter-intentions in his environment, or
   for wrong-doings within his group:
     He LEAVES that to
      the 'OSA' [Office of Special Affairs] or
      'IAS' [International Association of Scientologists] or
      'Ethics Officers' or
      'Justice Chiefs'.  LFBD


"He, as 'OT',
  concentrates on the product of his post in his Org.
   He does this from 8 or 9 (AM) to 11 (PM) in the night.

"He is OT VIII, let's say,
  but
   he puts
    very little into the First Dynamic [survival as self],
    very little into the Second Dynamic [survival as family].

"On the Third Dynamic [group]
   he is doing the same job - only more aware now -
    that he did about 10 years ago as a newcomer, or
   he might take more responsibility
    creating a new Org, a bigger Org.

"But he does minimal
  on the Fourth Dynamic [Mankind]
  or Fifth Dynamic [survival for animals and plants]
  or Sixth Dynamic [Physical Universe].

"And he might CLAIM - as he is OT VIII, and on staff -
  to do very much
   on the Seventh Dynamic [survival as spirit], and
   on the Eight Dynamic [survival as infinity and
                         the creator of life].  LFBD


"An 'OT' on his post
  is not asked to use his OT-abilities
   in order to take responsibility
    for another staff or public,
     when these are on 'ethics-lines', for example.
              [on 'ethics-lines' =
                are being punished and
                kicked off their job or
                kicked off their studies]


"This is MY Policy.
 Policy which I made.

"Policy which started out
  from the necessity to
   stamp orgs or missions out of the ground
    with new people and
     give them easy to understand and to follow instructions,
     even with little knowledge about Scientology.


"This
  'Don't use your OT-abilities, use the command-lines'
  must mutilate OT's!

"And, on top of that,
  being prohibited from handling FOR someone,
   for someone who is
    illegally declared [Suppressive, for example],
  makes an 'OT' into a
   'jack-in-the-box' [a children's toy]
   who is allowed to come out
    ONLY at special occasions.


"Further,
  my tendency,
  no,
  my whole intention has been,
   initially,
  to collect
   all Scientologists IN organizations,
  although that is NOT in alignment
   with my goal
    to create a sane civilization,
   where Scientologists
    would really best operate
     at their full potential as 'OT'
      in very MANY areas of life.  LFBD

 VGI's [Very Good Indicators] of LRH
 relief of Ron

[LRH:] "That sounds more like myself!

 LFBD-F/Nind

            L. Ron Hubbard"


[Koos:] It does!!


[Note by Koos:
 This may seem easy,
  but it is very hard work to confront
   LRH's evil, and
   his continuous compulsion to
    lie or tell half-truths, and
   his trying to get away with it.]


                                  Total session hours: 10:52 min

                Highly specialized LRH OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
           at 1,400 US $ per hour, makes 15,213 US $ total cost.


[The abbreviations LF(Long Fall) LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down)
 and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the E-meter,
 indicating mental charge (LF, LFBD), and release of charge
 completed (F/N).
 "LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.]


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite


 references:
  RI-483i  'What Went Extremely Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Summary' 16 Feb 96

  RI-483i-A 'What Went ... Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part I' 16 Feb 96
  RI-483i-B 'What Went ... Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part II' 16 Feb 96
  RI-483i-C 'What Went ... Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part III' 16 Feb 96
  RI-483i-D 'What Went ... Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Part IV' 16 Feb 96


  RI-462i  'Corpses in L. Ron Hubbard's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' 25 Jan 96
  RI-466i  'SUPERNOVA in M33 - L. Ron Hubbard's Betrayal' 30 Jan 96
  RI-470i  'Confronting L. Ron Hubbard with "Bill Robertson"' 31 Jan 96
  RI-472i  'How L. Ron Hubbard defended his reputation in 1983' 3 Feb 96
  RI-475i  'L. Ron Hubbard, Strong AND Weak' of 6 Feb 1996

  RI-476i  'LRH could be strong, but is very weak indeed' 6 Feb 96
  RI-477i  'L. Ron Hubbard as a Security Risk' of 7 Feb 1996
  RI-478i  'Agreements with L. Ron Hubbard?' of 8 Feb 1996
  RI-479i  'LRH: "I Would Lose 100,000 Scientologists"' of 8 Feb 96
  RI-479i-A  'With HONESTY, LRH Would GAIN 100,000's of Scnists' 14 Feb 96

  RI-334i  'Anti-Scn OSA-"PR" on Internet - Corrected' 1 Nov 95

  RI-421i  'The Charges against LRH' of 21 Dec 1995
  RI-426i  'Sec Checking LRH - Layers of Withholds' of 26 Dec 95
  RI-441i  'Edison versus L. Ron Hubbard' of 4 Jan 1996

  RI-407i  'Cleanup of ALL Scientologists' of 13 Dec 1995
  RI-408i  'Emotional Charge about LRH - handling' of 13 Dec 95


  RI-50RPi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - The Future' of 28 Dec 1994
               Revised and Replaced on 12 November 95

These and other Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

    (with WWW-browser) at
       ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI
    (with ftp) at
       thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI



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