20 February 1996



           RI-487i  'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-487i for Internet




The publication and form of this dialogue
 came about on the initiative of CB Willis (CBW:)
  who wrote all except what I (KOOS:) wrote.



                        ON ENEMIES AND HOSTILITY:
                         A Contemporary Dialogue

Persons of the Dialogue:

   KOOS NOLST TRENITE  [formerly Plato of Athens, 428-348 BC,
   son of Ariston and Perictione, founder of the Academy, and
   philosophical advisor to Dionysius II of Syracuse];
   currently Ambassador for Mankind (and Ron's Inspector).

   C.B. WILLIS  [former Mediterranean local, student of philosophy and
   friend of Plato]; currently philosophy educator and friend of Koos.

Scene:

   Cyberspace on Sun Feb 18 1996, 16:05:55 GMT.


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CBW:  [CBW is sharing realizations with Koos
          on the subject of enemies and danger from others:]

      No self-respecting spirit creates enemies or danger from others.
       No self-respecting spirit creates the counter-intention
          of ill will in their space.
      I respect myself as spirit, therefore I'm going back
          to my original predisposition,
           which is to see the commonality of spirit,
            and let all hearts revolve together,
             let all hearts revolve as one.
      I create that connection myself.

KOOS:  This is a decision to be yourself and to continue being yourself!
          It is totally excellent!

CBW:  Thank you, Koos,
       as I hold your understanding in high regard.

      Additionally,
      people may create opposition in order to have a game,
       like having a good tennis partner, or a friendly debate,
       or a left hand and right hand
           in oppositional counterpoint on the piano.
       But this is not enmity [hostility] or ill will necessarily,
           unless the players add ill will;
          rather, it's just a game, a simple opposition,
           entered voluntarily to play, to exercise strength and skill,
            even make music.

       The difference is
          orientation of the will
           and choice of game.

       Normal or sane people don't have enemies.
          They don't even think in terms of enemies and betrayal.
          They think in terms of degree of acquaintance or friendship.

       Others may choose to make an enemy of them at times,
          but they don't have to go into agreement
           and [thereby] create enemies themselves.

       Even talk of enemies is highly inflammatory language,
          an intense antagonism [2.0 on the tone scale],
           and heads south from there
            in the direction of non[-optimal] survival.

       Enemies steal attention and energy,
          as attention is off your regular interests and now on the enemy,
           and energy is tied up in now fighting the enemy,
            either offensively or defensively,
           but diverted from normal higher purposes.

       Sometimes having an enemy is used to get others' energy up,
          adrenaline rush,
          animal instinct,
          getting "pumped up",
          artificially inflated
           because true motivation and energy are not there,
            so people go for the substitute.

       Having enemies is a _substitute_
          for successful creativity
           and accomplishment.

KOOS:  Now it is also so that one cannot, on a regular basis,
         just command others
          to also be themselves (as you are being yourself)
          and to continue to be themselves.

       So, others might still act as enemies out of their own choice,
         but certainly NOT any more out of YOUR choice.

       The definition of ENEMY is therefore:
         "someone who has decided to 'Not be himself' too heavily."

CBW:   ... which is to say that a person who creates enemies is, in fact,
              his own worst enemy!

KOOS:  Very true.

       However, we do not make those wrong who
         ARE being themselves, and who, therefore,
         are able and willing to see those who are NOT being themselves.

       He does not create these enemies, but these were and
         are enemies by their own choice:
         by their own decision to not be themselves.

       And there the "game" starts again, and that is:
         those
          who are in a condition of enemy towards themselves
         are accusing
          those who ARE being themselves
          and who therefore can see enemies as enemies
          ( namely as individuals who are not being themselves ),
         of "creating enemies", while in fact those
          who are being themselves only OBSERVE
          people who are NOT being themselves, that is,
          people who are enemies by their own choice.

         We don't want to make people wrong for being themselves,
          (by falsely accusing them of "creating enemies") out of the
          circumstance that, when they ARE themselves, they can ALSO see
          or observe when other people are NOT being themselves!

CBW:  I would not want to falsely accuse anyone, and
         you, Koos, are correct as usual to exhort against
          the ethical mistake of false accusation.

      Now let me see if I have this right:
           If one can observe that another is NOT being himself,
            then we can say that the other is his own worst enemy,
            he is an enemy to himself and
            he may be an enemy to others, including us.
            But we do not need to have an attitude of ill will
             or enmity [hostility] toward him,
            we do not need to make of him an enemy,
            and
            we do not need to provoke him into being an enemy to us,
              for if we were to do so then surely we would have to say
              that we created him as an enemy
               in our personal universe [of experience].

KOOS:  You are speaking out of my heart, and I believe
         you are also speaking out of the heart of others.

[After a moment of contemplative silence,
  a gasp of disorientation is heard from CBW...]

CBW:    Help, Koos, I'm drowning in a sea of confusion
          regarding personal responsibility!
         Please be steadfast lest I lose my wits completely and
          decide to escape into a fit of "serenity."
         Of everyone I know, you have the best chance
          of being able to help me climb out of this confusion!

         I am willing to be responsible at some level
           for what shows up in my personal universe --
              [because] my personal universe [of experience]
              is my own creation!
         And when we _speak_ of _enemies_, we have already gone beyond
           a person's behavior,
            but we are referring now
             to their intentions,
             to their character
              which likely is the source of their intentions,
             to the state of purity or corruption of soul,
              related to the question of character and intentions,
               most especially orientation of the will,
            and we are adding a level of abstraction that evaluates
             on top of
              the behavior and intention.

KOOS:  The abstraction shows
          that one can decide solely by oneself
           to not be an enemy,
           but to be a friend to oneself and towards others, and
          that this is entirely one's own decision
           no matter what others do or decide.

CBW:      In many ways I am back to my original statement:
             that no self-respecting spirit would create enemies
             or opposition-to-self that includes ill-will.

            So my question to you is:
             If someone shows up
              in your ["your," speaking generally here] universe
              who
              has decided too heavily to NOT be himself,
               to be his own worst enemy and possibly yours too,
             HOW did he get into your personal universe [of experience]?
             In short, how did you manifest this guy into your local space?
             Why is he showing up here rather than outside of your field
              of immediate awareness?
             Is there something you did to create this enemy?

KOOS:  I would like to answer to this now.
          He is in the game.
          It is my decision to also be in the game.
          It is my decision to perceive
           the game and the players
            in order to have an enjoyable game.
          It is my decision that
           others should also enjoy the game, and that
           my enjoyment of the game is
            determined considerably
             by also providing joy to others, and
             by co-experiencing that joy.

CBW:       Now we could say the above is a game also,
              but now we get into "choice of games,"
               as well as orientation of the will, just in case
                someone slips through the fabric of our personal universe
                  and surprises us as an enemy.
                In case of unpleasant surprise,
                  we do not need to have enmity [hostility],
                    but we need to recognize their enemy status to themselves.
             Meanwhile we can go back and modify our universe design.

KOOS:  They are part of our universe.
       Therefore it is wise to recognize them as they are.

CBW:       Speculating now, if no one created enemies
              in their personal universes,
             and if no one harbored attitudes of enmity [hostility],
              then humanity would have a very different situation
              than they historically have had, and still have today,
               wouldn't you say?

KOOS:  To this I would say:
          The dream of a sane civilization
           is strived for by many.
          One would decide more and more to be one's self
           in more and more areas, and
          one would increase one's ability
           to maintain that state
            through study and through auditing,
           in an environment
            where one is asked to be oneself and
            where one is not rewarded for deciding to be an enemy.

         In order to maintain a state of being oneself
          it is necessary to observe and recognize
           to what extent and
           in what areas of life
            others are being themselves,
             or are not being themselves, as the case may be.

CBW:       The problem is:
              some people are just asking for trouble from others
               by antagonizing them (outflow),
               and some people are just looking for others to be trouble
               by waiting to be victimized (inflow).
              These are the people who most obviously "create enemies,"
               and these two types are complementary
               and "made for each other."

KOOS:  It is impossible to maintain a state of being oneself,
         unless one observes others and
          to what extent and in what areas of life
           others are being themselves
           or, for whatever reason or out of whatever grief,
           others decided it is too painful to be themselves.

CBW:    It feels intuitively to me that rehabilitating
          their ability to consciously create a universe would be helpful,
           but even that would be useless without knowing oneself,
             and how one is now, or could be, a friend to oneself,
             and how one is now, or could be, an enemy to oneself.

KOOS:  Certainly, the desire to be oneself
         is a major factor in rehabilitating oneself.

         Still someone might have no desire, for instance,
          to be a parent,
          but he might have a great desire to care for nature.

         Therefore, there lies a great danger and harm
          in classifying someone as 'not being himself'
           IF ONE DOES NOT IMPLY OR STATE
            IN WHICH ACTIVITY OR AREA OF LIFE
             he obviously is an enemy to himself and to others.

CBW:         If a person were to reverse a decision to
                to NOT be himself,
                  then he would decide TO BE HIMSELF,
                and in his right mind,
                  he would not create opposition with ill will
                    in his personal universe.
                I believe this is what L. Ron Hubbard meant when he said
                that ETHICS is
                  removing counter-intention from the environment.

KOOS:  L. Ron Hubbard meant originally
          'counter-intentions of others
           to the desire of someone to improve self'.

         He discovered that others would not gain or would lose gains,
          if the environment would not approve of
          or would oppose improvement.

         At almost the same time,
          he defined counter-intentions as
           "any intention which
            opposed any intention of himself",
          and
           "any intention which
            opposed any intention of his group",
          and later as
           "any intention which does not admire
            him and his organization unconditionally".

         In other words,
          he decided to NOT be himself anymore,
          and so became an enemy to himself, around 1966.

         By consequence, he did not anymore observe others
          as to whether they were being themselves or not.

         In this way he CREATED, and still creates "enemies",
          where in fact he is himself an enemy.

         Remember, someone is solely an enemy
          because he has stopped, out of whatever grief,
           to be himself towards certain areas of life.

         Someone who observed instances or areas
          in which L. Ron Hubbard
           had decided to not be himself,
          was considered by him
           to have 'counter-intentions'
            to him and to his activities.


CBW:          That doesn't mean you have to kill enemies,
                that is very very rarely the case
                  unless immediate life is in danger.

KOOS:  This matter has been reasonably well solved
         in our present society, I would say.

CBW:          Just move them out of your personal universe,
                put them on the periphery by intention,
               or better yet,
                don't create them to begin with.

KOOS:  Ideally, one should be or put oneself
          in such a mental condition
           that one can freely view someone
            who is in a state of enemy,
           in order to determine one's course of action
            towards preventing or minimizing
             the harm done to oneself or to others
              by a person in such a state
               in some area of life.

KOOS:  I tell you about an experience of mine:
           When I very THOROUGHLY observe that another is in Enemy
           or in Treason, he will - at least temporarily - diminish that
           condition considerably.

CBW:   I can indeed see how this might be so.

KOOS:  But it requires a very high level of perceptional force-output
           on my part.

CBW:    What you describe is akin to the Sufi "way of the glance,"
          in that there is power in the
           gaze (including purely 'theta gaze')
            of an 'initiate'
             to transform.
              [Sufi = a mystic-devotee in the Islamic tradition]

              [Theta gaze = direction of intentionality and
               postulation of theta [spiritual substance] and ideas
               when a spirit looks at something or someone.
                A theta gaze may be done by an embodied spirit
                 in what may look to the average worldly observer
                  like a normal gaze,
                or a theta gaze may be done by a disembodied spirit,
                 and would not normally be noticed at all
                  by the average worldly observer,
                but either can be noticed
                 by another spirit who is aware
                 of how powerful theta gaze can be for good or ill.
                In theta gaze, the physical world drops away
                 from the looker's sight and
                  the spiritual world stands revealed.
                Theta gaze is both perceptive and creative.

                In science, the fact that an observer can change
                 the results of an experiment is a phenomenon
                  of theta gaze,
                  although in crude form,
                   since most scientists are not yet
                   aware that they are spirit. (Note by CBW)]

          When an 'initiate' looks upon a person,
           with all that may involve,
           the person may be changed forever
            (that is, he may experience eternity).

              [Initiate = person who has done
                appropriate spiritual preparation
               and has been progressively initiated
                into a spiritual lineage
                 that may or may not be represented on earth
                  in the form of a mystical order, church,
                  or other organization.
               Ultimately all true spiritual orders are
                invisible, metaphysical,
                owing to the nature of spirit itself,
                and are virtually incorruptible
                 since they are built by true spiritual merit,
                 unlike their physical counterparts,
                  where ignorance or other injustices
                   are possible. (Note by CBW)]

          I do wonder how much force is involved however,
            in the observation you describe,
             and how much is simple intention.


KOOS:  Intention, I believe,
         was correctly defined by L. Ron Hubbard
          as "directed (mental) force".



CBW:   Shall we document our exchange of ideas as a dialogue?

KOOS:  Dialogue is a rather classic and well-accepted form.
         (We have arranged it in this form now,
          for the benefit of our readers.)




Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite and CB Willis


 references:
  RI-58i   'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
  RI-444i  'The Practice of "SP-declares"' of 5 Jan 1996

  RI-360i  '... on Justice & LRH' of 16 Nov 1995
  RI-381i  'Koos ... on Scientology's Future' of 25 Nov 1995

  RI-10i   'Confronting a Suppressive' of 12 Oct 1994
  RI-14i   'SPs in Scientology's Safe Space' of 23 Oct 1994
  RI-24i   'Definition of 'PTS' - IMPORTANT' of 19 Nov 1994
  RI-53i   'Past Life Criminals and Scn Ethics' of 29 July 1994
  RI-90i   'The Intention of a Suppressive' of 9 Oct 1994


  RI-0i    'Current Ethics' of 30 June 1994
  RI-288i  'The Main Evil Purpose' of 15 Oct 1995

  RI-242Ri 'Being There - Freedom to Act' of 22 July 1995
  RI-235i  'Handling people with Understanding' of 14 July 1995
  RI-471i  'Two Ways of Analyzing Life-situations' of 30 Jan 1996

  RI-217i  'Choosing Sides - As Ethics' of 24 Jun 1995
  RI-263i  'Two Responses to Being Helped' of 20 Aug 1995
  RI-391i  'Cleaning up the Internet further' of 24 Sept 1995


  RI-88i   'Restoring the Being by Declaring Him SP' 14 Feb 1995
  RI-185i  'Cancelling SP-declares' of 20 May 1995

  RI-83i   'The Right to Study and Apply Scientology' of 16 Jun 1994
  RI-269i  'How to Handle Irresponsible People. (GOLD!)' 26 Sep 95


  RI-50RPi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - The Future' of 28 Dec 1994
               Revised and Replaced on 12 November 95

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