9 March 1996
RI-506i 'Germany - Current Situation of Scn: criminal'
from Ambassador for Mankind (Ron's Inspector)
Message # RI-506i for Internet
Confessional on Irin Neubert, the Technical Secretary ('Tech Sec',
in charge of all training and processing) of Munich Org.
Ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
(Reported per HCOPL 'Confessionals - Ethics Reports Required')
9 Mar 1996, 13:42 GMT...........................hours: 01:07 min
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH [L. Ron Hubbard, the being] told Koos? sF
[Irin:] "That he [LRH] removed Goetz [Neubert, her husband and
psychotic Ethics Officer of Munich Org] from his post,
and
that he made Goetz leave me
as Second Dynamic [as her husband]." LFBD
(see RI-462i 'Corpses in LRH's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' of 25 Jan 96)
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
[Irin:] "That I would be willing
to be the Commanding Officer of Munich Org, and LFBD
would be willing
to rehabilitate Koos and
to cancel his [false] SP-declare." LFBD
(see RI-462i 'Corpses in LRH's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' of 25 Jan 96)
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
"That he has removed Babsi [Weber-Ecin,
anti-social HCO Exec Sec of Munich Org] LFBD
because he considers that Babsi is suppressive." LFBD
(see RI-462i 'Corpses in LRH's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' of 25 Jan 96)
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
"That he wants of us
to take responsibility for Koos and
[to] override decisions of the
Continental and International Justice Chief. LFBD
(see RI-312i 'How LRH Demanded Mun Org to Commit Crimes' 24 Oct 95)
"He [actually] wants of us that we keep these lines in. LFBD's
"LRH does not want to have Munich Org taken apart, LFBD
broken down by Koos,
although Koos claims
it is his intention to
remove Suppressive Persons from Munich Org
in order to safeguard the existence of Munich Org."
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
"LRH has lied to Koos
about that he considers
Babsi [Weber-Ecin] or Karin [Schiele,
anti-social HCO Area Sec of Munich Org]
a threat to the Org.
(see RI-92i 'Worse than Napoleon - Josephine de Beau...' 30 Jan 95)
(see RI-351i 'Karin Schiele: Frothing Fury of MUNICH Org' 14 Nov 95)
"LRH [actually] considers them
very valuable for Munich Org." LFBD
[LRH considers Suppressive Persons,
like Jane Kember, Mo Budlong, David Miscavige,
Richard Reiss, Ray Mithoff, Marc Yager, etc.
valuable,
but he did not dare to admit that
to Koos nor publicly, until 25 January 1996.
(Note by Koos)]
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
"That he removed Karin Schiele [the
anti-social HCO Area Sec of Munich Org]."
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
"That he removed Nina [Voegtli, the
irresponsible Commanding Officer of Munich Org]."
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos?
"That he would agree to have Munich Org closed down,
for the sake of...
...for the sake of what?
"LRH knows and I know
when Suppressive Persons [non-Scientologists]
would manage to close down Munich Org,
they would do everything possible
to inhibit and destroy
the promotion and application of Scientology, altogether,
in Bavaria and then in Germany.
"So in my opinion there is no
'closing down Munich Org for the sake of
ethical application of Scientology'." LFBD's
[Auditor:] What lie has LRH told Koos? LFBD
"That HE [LRH]wants to be responsible
for the existence of Munich Org
as a continued ethical unit." LFBD's
LFBD's LFBD's-F/Nind
(End of this Confessional session)
session hours: 01:07 min
session cost at 700 US $: 782 US $
9 Mar 1996, 15:11 GMT...........................hours: 01:47 min
[Auditor:] Koos is declaring you [Irin Neubert] a Suppressive Person
for your continuing to support suppressive staff
in Munich Org, F
in FLAG,
in Copenhagen and
in Los Angeles,
and
for refusing to support Koos.
[Auditor:] Do you have any disagreements with that?
[Irin:] "I do not consider myself a Suppressive."
LFBD's LFBD's LFBD's LFBD's LFBD's
[Auditor:] Koos is declaring you a Suppressive Person
for your continuing to support suppressive staff LFBD
in Munich Org, LF
in FLAG, sF
in Copenhagen F
and in Los Angeles, sF
and
for refusing to support Koos. sF
[Auditor:] Do you have any disagreements with that? F
[hesitation of Irin]
[Irin:] "I do not support any suppressive staff.
"None of the staff I am working together with
is DECLARED Suppressive." F
[Auditor:] Koos is declaring you a Suppressive Person
for your continuing to support suppressive staff
in Munich Org, sF
in FLAG,
in Copenhagen sF
and in Los Angeles, sF
and
for refusing to support Koos.
[Auditor:] Do you have any disagreements with that? F
[Irin:] "I am not suppressive,
but Koos has declared suppressive those
who didn't follow HIS orders
but [followed] the Ethics orders
of the International Justice Chief.
"I am also doing that.
Nevertheless, I am not a suppressive,
how LRH describes a suppressive. F
"I am not supporting Koos." F LFBD
[Koos to Irin:] I indicate to you the persons
who are Suppressive in Scientology at present,
but who have NOT been declared or removed, yet:
In your Org, Munich Org, these are:
Karin Schiele and Babsi Weber-Ecin.
But I have told you that already.
I have removed David Miscavige, one year ago.
The current most Suppressive Person
on post in Scientology is
the Senior C/S FLAG Richard Reiss. F's
Have you heard about him?
[Irin:] "Yes."
[Koos to Irin:] Good.
The next biggest Suppressive Person
in Scientology today on staff is
the current head of RTC and
Senior C/S International Ray Mithoff.
Have you heard of him?
[Irin:] "Yes."
[Koos to Irin:] Good.
The next major Suppressive Persons
on post in Scientology are
Marc Yager, Commanding Officer of
the Commodore's Messenger Organization,
and
Norman Starkey
in charge of Estates International.
Have you heard about these two people:
Marc Yager and Norman Starkey?
[Irin:] "Yes."
[Koos to Irin:] Good.
The biggest Suppressive Person in Copenhagen is
Caspar de Rijk
who is better know as his previous lifetime
Nazi Judge Volker Freisler.
(see RI-270i 'Remedying the Crimes of Nazi-Judge Freisler' 26 Sept 95)
Do you know about Caspar de Rijk?
[Irin:] "Yes."
[Koos to Irin:] All these and more Suppressive Persons
were put on post and are kept on post
by LRH [L. Ron Hubbard] himself.
I removed David Miscavige
against the will of LRH,
but LRH had no other choice
because LRH pretended to me
that he wanted to be and was decent and ethical.
Do you know anything about this?
[Irin:] "Yes."
[Koos to Irin:] So what do you consider
would be an ethical solution
to the situation I just described to you? LFBD
[Irin:] "I have no solution to that.
"I do not want to support Koos.
I do not want to SEE all that much suppression.
"Had I wanted to support Koos, LF
I would have done it since long. LFBD
"I wished Koos would have taken the road via
the International Justice Chief!" LFBD's LFBD's LFBD's
[Koos to Irin:] This is a childish remark.
The International Justice Chief
is controlled heavily
by the Suppressive Persons I enumerated.
Neither the International Justice Chief nor RTC
even answered my request for a Board of Review.
[Koos to Irin:] So, is it correct
that you are too big a COWARD
- to care for your public,
- to care for your Org,
- to care for the Orgs in Germany,
- to care for Scientology in Europe,
- to care for Scientology World Wide, and
- to care for Mankind?
[Irin:] "Yes, that's the case."
[Koos to Irin:] Good. Thank you, Irin.
The Ministers of the separate States of Germany
have decided recently
to disband the corporate structures of
Scientology Organizations in Germany.
This is because you and others
refuse to throw out the Suppressive Persons
and instead continue to support them.
You will probably land in prison yourself
for that.
And so it is you who
destroys Munich Org and Scientology in Germany,
and not me.
Can you take any responsibility
for the fact that YOU are doing this?
[Irin:] "I do not want to.
And the last word is not spoken about this."
[Koos to Irin:] Good!
As far as you are concerned,
you HAVE just spoken the last word about it,
and
you are dumping all responsibility on me and
refuse at the same time any support of me.
[Auditor to Irin:] Koos is declaring you a Suppressive Person sF
for your continuing to support suppressive staff
in Munich Org, sF
in FLAG, sF
in Copenhagen sF
and in Los Angeles, sF
and
for refusing to support Koos.
[Auditor:] Do you have any disagreements with that? F
[Irin:] "Koos described it in a simple word: 'coward'.
That's what I am.
"And I have many justifications, and
officially I would talk quite different about it,
but here, now,
without antagonism against Koos,
I admit to 'coward'."
[Koos to Irin:] Koos has spent almost 300,000 DM on your Org and
has only done good to it and nothing bad at all,
yet you threw him out in 1991 and
since five years now refuse to remedy the matter.
This means that you are a criminal and
now liable to criminal prosecution.
Koos has spent about
three million Dollars
in detecting the Suppressive Persons
which I have enumerated above, and
in getting LRH back,
in auditing LRH,
in removing Miscavige and
in making all the data known publicly
both to Scientology and to the society.
Despite all that,
you refuse to support Koos and
you refuse to disconnect from Munich Org.
[Auditor to Irin:] Koos is declaring you a Suppressive Person sF
for your continuing to support suppressive staff
in Munich Org, sF
in FLAG, sF
in Copenhagen sF
and in Los Angeles, sF
and
for refusing to support Koos. sF
[Auditor:] Do you have any disagreements with that?
[Irin:] "I have no further disagreements with it.
I understand Koos's viewpoint. LFBD
I accept his declaring me Suppressive." LFBD's-F/N
LFBD's-F/Nind
(End of this Confessional session)
session hours: 01:47 min
session cost at 700 US $: 1,248 US $
Total session hours: 02:54 min
Highly specialized OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 2,030 $ total cost.
(The abbreviations sF(Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long
Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) designate reactions
on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F, LF, LFBD) and
release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)
(The data revealed in HCO Security Checks are not confidential.
They are used to detect hidden crimes, and the data is used by
the group to stop the crimes and to apply group-justice to the
criminal, based on what he ACTUALLY did, rather than on what
others believe or are led to believe he did.
The purpose is to have real justice both for the criminal and
for the groupmembers who have been affected by his crimes.)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite
references:
RI-341i 'SP-declare on MUNICH Org Staff' of 9 Nov 1995
RI-354i 'Criminal MUNICH ORG is NOT Scientology' of 14 Nov 95
RI-374Di 'Bezueglich: Strafanzeige gegen Scn Kirche Muenchen' 21 Nov 95
RI-38i 'SEC CHECK of an irresponsible OT VIII' of 17 Dec 95
RI-92i 'Worse than Napoleon - Josephine de Beauharnais' 30 Jan 95
RI-114i 'A former Nazi-psychiatrist - revisited' of 16 Mar 95
RI-351i 'Karin Schiele: Frothing Fury of MUNICH Org' 14 Nov 95
RI-352i 'Is this some kind of trick-question?' of 14 Nov 1995
RI-353i 'Was Karin Schiele a Nazi-Psychiatrist or not?' 14 Nov 95
RI-354i 'Criminal MUNICH ORG is NOT Scientology' of 14 Nov 95
RI-356i 'Emil Kauer, Snr C/S Mun Org, on Karin Schiele' 14 Nov 95
RI-370i 'LRH and Karin Schiele on Koos' of 21 Nov 1995
RI-355i 'Munich Org's Irin Neubert Confesses to Koos' 14 Nov 95
RI-364i 'Munich OSA DIR Manfred Buergel defends psychiatry'
RI-367i 'Anni Maisriemler of Mun Org recants - for a day' 20 Nov 95
RI-94i 'An Assistant of Nazi Heinrich Himmler - ...' 24 Aug 94
RI-117i 'Why AOSHEU Stayed Small' of 6 Mar 1995
RI-118i 'A Continental Ethics Officer Exposed' of 6 Mar 1995
RI-270i 'Remedying the Crimes of Nazi-Judge Freisler' 26 Sept 95
RI-8i 'SEC CHECK Intl Justice Chief' of 29 Sept 1994
RI-14i 'SPs in Scientology's Safe Space' of 23 Oct 1994
RI-24i 'Definition of 'PTS' - IMPORTANT' of 19 Nov 1994
RI-53i 'Past Life Criminals and Scn Ethics' of 29 Jul 1994
RI-111i 'The evil Justice Chief System' of 16 Mar 1995
RI-67i 'How to drive others insane' of 24 Jun 1992
RI-269i 'How to Handle Irresponsible People' of 26 Sept 1995
RI-340i 'Current Head of CoS, MITHOFF - URGENT URGENT' 8 Nov 95
RI-334i 'Anti-Scientology OSA-"PR" on Internet - Corrected' 1 Nov 95
RI-25i 'PTS-Declare Type C of OSA-Staff' of 19 Nov 1994
RI-84i 'Ron's Inspector Order to OSA' of 5 Feb 1995
RI-166i 'Who owns the Church of Scientology?' of 1 May 1995
RI-500i 'Ray Mithoff replaced David Miscavige' of 5 Mar 1996
RI-497i 'NO Statistic of "Auditing hours PREVENTED"' of 1 Mar 95
RI-493i 'How LRH makes Scientology fail utterly' of 25 Feb 96
RI-494i 'LRH: "A more Ethical Scientology will evolve!"' 22 Feb 96
RI-495i 'Getting LRH slowly off wrong targets, now' 27 Feb 96
RI-483i 'What Went...Wrong since 1966 in Scn - Summary' 16 Feb 96
RI-484i 'All of CoS is one Mafia: "We stand tall!"' 16 Feb 96
RI-485i 'LRH's ACTUAL Condition in January 1986' of 17 Feb 96
RI-486i 'How Scientologists destroy(ed) LRH' of 17 Feb 1996
RI-489i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Big Loss of Miscavige' 22 Feb 96
RI-490i 'Posting lies about Scientology is no use!' 23 Feb 96
RI-462i 'Corpses in LRH's Cupboard - IMPORTANT' of 25 Jan 96
RI-466i 'SUPERNOVA in M33 - L. Ron Hubbard's Betrayal' 30 Jan 96
RI-470i 'Confronting LRH with "Bill Robertson"' of 31 Jan 96
RI-472i 'How LRH defended his reputation in 1983' of 3 Feb 96
RI-475i 'L. Ron Hubbard, Strong AND Weak' of 6 Feb 1996
RI-416i 'LRH "Being in harmony with Miscavige"' of 15 Dec 95
RI-417i 'LRH Fused with Miscavige' of 19 Dec 1995
RI-428Ri 'The whole of RTC is fake, according to LRH' 28 Dec 95
RI-407i 'Cleanup of ALL Scientologists' of 13 Dec 1995
RI-408i 'Emotional Charge about LRH - handling' of 13 Dec 95
RI-468i 'General "SP-declare" on all Scnists who...' 31 Jan 95
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' of 28 Dec 1994
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