2 June 1996
RI-589i 'ED INT - Drowning with L. Ron Hubbard and his Sea Org'
from Ambassador for Mankind (Ron's Inspector)
Message # RI-589i for Internet
Guillaume Lesevre, the 'ED INT',
or Executive Director International
of the Church of Scientology,
has now decided
to give up all decency, integrity
and aliveness of his own.
Guillaume justifies it with
being "loyal" to L. Ron Hubbard,
(a fully proven traitor
who has destroyed and continues to destroy
his own friends).
Guillaume further justifies his decision
- to rather drown with L. Ron Hubbard and his Sea Org -
with
being "loyal" to the Sea Org,
a group of "dedicated" criminals
who have sworn to execute all orders
of L. Ron Hubbard blindly and unconditionally
for the next half of eternity,
while they were originally lured into the Sea Org
with promises that they were given important positions
from which they would be enabled to save Mankind.
The betrayal is unheard of,
and the betrayal is unparalleled in human history.
Now, 'ED INT' Guillaume Lesevre
has decided to be a martyr, an other-determined marionette,
in order to show to others
what L. Ron Hubbard has done
and is doing to him,
and that, no matter how highly trained
(OT VIII, L's Completion, etc. etc.)
and respected you are,
you still will be
destroyed, dominated, caved in,
made to lose your own life and integrity and decency,
and will be made into a marionette without self-determined life,
by L. Ron Hubbard.
In other words,
Guillaume Lesevre has decided
to be a living and walking WARNING
to all Scientologists,
and that is his present and only actual role
as the figurehead "Executive Director International".
Even when people of some decency decide to be insane,
they still at least attempt to be decent:
Guillaume has decided to be a living warning
to all Scientologists,
what will become of them
when they decide to remain "loyal"
to L. Ron Hubbard and to his criminal Sea Org-group.
OT-Confessional on Guillaume Lesevre, Exec Dir International,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
(Reported per HCOPL 'Confessionals - Ethics Reports Required')
2 June 1996, 00:01 GMT..........................hours: 01:51 min
[Auditor:] How are you BEING betrayed? F LFBD's
[Guillaume:] "By [L.] Ron [Hubbard]
having created an RTC [Religious Technology Center]
which is doing functions [for the Churches]
the Churches [themselves] were supposed to do."
[Auditor:] How are YOU betraying OTHERS? LFBD
[Guillaume:] "I am following
exactly the Policy laid out by LRH [L. Ron Hubbard]." LFBD's
[Note by Koos: That is an interesting answer!]
[Koos to Guillaume:]
And how is
still enforcing [the most violent criminal] Miscavige
on the Scientology public
[as if he were there and still in power]
exactly following Policy laid out by LRH?
[Guillaume:] "LRH wanted Miscavige."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
I repeat my question:
How is that exactly following Church-Policy,
[to continue] to force a suppressive person
on all Scientologists
even after he has been detected [and removed]?
[Guillaume:] "LRH WANTS IT SO.
AND THIS IS AFTER ALL A POWER-GAME." LFBD
[Koos to Guillaume:]
What personal reward do you get
for betraying all Scientologists and Mankind
in this way?
[Guillaume:] "I get no personal reward,
my reward is
BEING PART OF THE GROUP."
[Note by Koos: This is correct.
He is willing to incapacitate himself
in order to be part of the group.]
[Koos to Guillaume:]
You ARE not part of the group.
You are a TRAITOR to the group
and you are a TRAITOR to Mankind,
and you are a TRAITOR
to the [well-]being [of] L. Ron Hubbard.
What personal reward do you get
for being a traitor?
[Guillaume:] "I am a 'Sea Org' member.
[Note by Koos: That's his "reward",
being allowed to be part of and remain
in a criminal group, the Sea Org.
He actually does indeed consider that a reward.
You will get the same honest answer
of members of a criminal streetgang
- the reward is 'to be part of the group'.]
"My rewards are the wins of Scientology in the world."
[Note by Koos: That's just PR-talk.
If he WOULD be interested
in the wins of Scientologists,
he would not go and drive Scientologists crazy
by enforcing insanity of them.]
[Koos to Guillaume:]
Koos has declared the 'Sea Org'
to be a suppressive group, and
Koos has found out
that LRH created the Sea Org AS a suppressive group
out of the intention to dominate
and destroy Mankind.
What is your personal reward
for being part of this suppressive group.?
[Guillaume:] "The Sea Org is not a suppressive group.
It is the homestead of many decent people."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
The Sea Org is THE refuge
for the biggest criminals of Mankind.
(see RI-572i 'The Sea Org - a refuge for criminals' 22 May 96,
see RI-14i 'SPs in Scientology's Safe Space' of 23 Oct 1994,
etc. etc.)
And I indicate to you
that you are part of a criminal organization,
and that you are a criminal, in the same way
as your friend Mark Ingber
(see RI-469i 'MARK INGBER, spiritual "whore"
for L. Ron Hubbard' of 31 Jan 1996)
is also a vicious criminal and traitor to Mankind.
I am speaking to you as a senior, senior to you
and senior to your fellow criminals of the Sea Org,
and I am informing you
that this Mafia will be disbanded.
In other words, your so-called 'Sea Org contract'
is hereby cancelled.
Do you have anything to say to that?
[Guillaume:] "You can't cancel
what [L.] Ron [Hubbard] has set forth
and what we all agree to exist." LFBD
[Koos to Guillaume:]
I have cancelled all insanities
and suppressive creations of L. Ron Hubbard, and
I have declared him [L. Ron Hubbard] suppressive,
and so will you [declare L. Ron Hubbard suppressive]
in due course.
Since when have you decided
to yourself be a suppressive person?
[Guillaume:] "I have not decided that.
"Or? LF's
I know of one moment:
This was when I decided
to not interfere [with L. Ron Hubbard's criminal intentions],
and not cancel your SP-declare
in January 1995."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
Yes! But there is a more recent moment,
when you had another psychotic break
[of being hit and caved in
by the Operating Satan L. Ron Hubbard].
When was that?
[Guillaume:] "I resent your question
and I resent your decision
to want to be my senior."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
I do not want to be your senior,
I AM your senior, and you know that.
Stop playing your Kindergarten games.
I also rather go sailing [than looking at your condition].
If L. Ron Hubbard
wanted to make YOU into a suppressive person
- and he has succeeded in this now -
then L. Ron Hubbard
also wants to make ALL OTHER Scientologists
into suppressive persons
and will SUCCEED in that, too.
Is that "the wins of Scientologists",
as your reward for being a traitor,
that all Scientologists
become suppressive and insane like you are now?
[Guillaume:] "It is not, and YOU know THAT very well."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
So you pretend, that,
by deciding to be yourself a suppressive
and remaining a suppressive,
you are letting Scientologists have wins.
[Guillaume:] "Indeed, they have wins."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
...because you have decided to be an SP?
Does that allow them to have wins?
Is that the game you are playing now?
That by letting LRH cave YOU in,
you are allowing OTHERS to have wins?
[Guillaume:] "This has nothing to do with each other."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
You are a martyr,
and you think that - by being that martyr -
you will hinder L. Ron Hubbard from caving OTHERS in?
[Guillaume:] "Why am I a martyr?"
[Koos to Guillaume:]
Because you have decided to be suppressive person.
Because you have decided to be a victim.
Because you have decided to WANT TO BE CAVED IN by LRH.
How come that LRH did not manage to cave KOOS in?
[Guillaume:] "I have made these decisions,
and I am not going to change them.
"I am IN the group.
You might be ABOVE the group, LFBD
and bound to no agreement.
[Note by Koos:
Being above a group includes
not only
observing the agreements of THAT group,
but also
observing the agreements
of OTHER groups
AND of Mankind.]
"But a group has to do with agreements."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
No, Guillaume.
This proves again that you are a suppressive person.
You are justifying yourself
in the same way as the Nazi's did:
"We agree that ... [and therefore we are a group]."
But the Nazi's were NOT a real group,
because they did not care for each other.
And THAT is the definition of a group:
It is not agreement,
but IT IS 'CARING FOR EACH OTHER'
THAT DEFINES A GROUP.
YOU HAVE NOW DELIVERED SOLID AND COMPLETE EVIDENCE
WHY THE WHOLE
CHURCH [structure] OF SCIENTOLOGY
HAS TO BE DESTROYED
AND THEREFORE WILL BE DESTROYED.
We have now sufficient evidence in you
that not only the Sea Org,
but the whole Church of Scientology
is a suppressive and anti-social group
which MAKES suppressive persons
- (also out of an OT VIII,
L's completion, who is fully trained,
all of which I believe you are). LF
You have become an anti-social monster
without any integrity,
without any own will,
with all decency lost,
with all care and love for humanity drained out of you -
in exchange for
some approval and admiration
from someone whom you know has
become completely psychotic,
namely L. Ron Hubbard, the being.
And that is all you have gained as a personal reward
for your recent decision
to sell your soul to the devil himself,
the Operating Satan L. Ron Hubbard.
I will let people know this,
and you will be part of the Nuremberg Trials,
for your crimes against Mankind. LFBD
Now it may be clear to you
why I called you correctly a 'martyr'.
You are the living proof and evidence
that the Church of Scientology must be destroyed.
And that is the REAL reason
why you have decided to be a suppressive person now:
To show the world
how insane and evil one becomes
when one is a Sea Org member
and a follower of the being L. Ron Hubbard.
Do you understand now why you are a MARTYR?
[Guillaume:] "I understand your line of thought.
Now let it be clear:
The Church of Scientology will not be destroyed!"
[Koos to Guillaume:]
Here is the martyr speaking again.
Your mission is
to show how evil L. Ron Hubbard has become,
and your mission is not yet completed.
You always wanted to be a martyr.
And now you can be one and even serve Mankind.
Have Fun! LFBD And enjoy your suffering! LFBD
Can I do anything to assist you in your role?
[Guillaume:] "I am loyal to LRH [L. Ron Hubbard].
I am loyal to the Sea Org.
You can't assist me, Koos.
"You ridicule my role."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
That belongs to your role of being a martyr,
to be ridiculed.
Because that's the only role
you [can and are willing to] have at the moment:
to be a ridiculous martyr.
Thank you for helping me to understand
your present condition and game.
I found it very enlightening [to examine you].
Is there anything you want to say or ask
before we end the session?
[Guillaume:] "Yes!
I object to your intention
to want to destroy the Church of Scientology."
[Koos to Guillaume:]
Well, you YOURSELF want it, Guillaume.
But your pretense [about it]
is also part of your current role.
So we will take your remark like that.
Is that all you want to say before we end?
[Guillaume:] "Yes."
[Koos to Guillaume:] Good, thank you very much.
(End of the confessional session)
Total session hours: 01:51 min
Highly specialized OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 1,295 US $ total cost.
[The abbreviations F(Fall) LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down)
and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the E-meter,
indicating mental charge (F, LF, LFBD), and release of charge
completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.]
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1995, 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite
references:
RI-96i 'How Guillaume...Deserted You - Part I' of 3 Mar 1995
RI-234i 'SP-Declare on Guillaume Lesevre, ED INT' 13 July 95
RI-234i-A'SP-Declare on Guillaume, ED INT - Add' of 15 July 95
RI-298i 'Guillaume (ED INT) on LRH's High Treason' 19 Oct 95
RI-343Ri 'Guillaume (ED INT) on How to Remove Ray Mithoff' 9 Nov 95
RI-376i 'Guillaume (ED INT) wants to Remedy his Crimes?' 23 Nov 95
RI-384i 'Koos and Guillaume on Cancelling All SP-declares' 24 Nov 95
RI-421i 'The Charges against LRH' of 21 Dec 1995
RI-431i 'ED INT Guillaume Completely Overwhelmed by LRH' 1 Jan 96
RI-465Ri 'Guillaume: An LRH-dominated piece, or a player?' 26 Jan 96
RI-500i 'Ray Mithoff replaced David Miscavige' of 5 Mar 1996
RI-523i 'Summary of Scientology's current problems, to ED INT' 21 Mar 96
RI-548i 'CofS Owes Koos 100,000 US $ for Auditing ED INT' 3 May 95
RI-536i 'A talk with Koos on L. Ron Hubbard's secrets' 12 Apr 96
RI-529i-A'What the being LRH is doing NOW - Addition' 22 Apr 96
RI-529i 'URGENT - What the being LRH is doing NOW' 6 Apr 1996
RI-532i 'Confessional on LRH's Destructive Control' 6 Apr 96
RI-534i 'Justifying "Source" LRH's evil intentions' 8 Apr 96
RI-486i 'How Scientologists destroy(ed) LRH' of 17 Feb 1996
RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scn' 23 Feb 1996
RI-493i 'How LRH makes Scientology fail utterly' of 25 Feb 96
RI-538i 'Official Expulsion of the being LRH from Scn' 17 Apr 96
RI-538i-A'Official Expulsion of the being LRH from Scn - Add' 29 Apr 96
RI-538i-B'Official Expulsion of the being LRH from Scn - Add B' 29 Apr 96
RI-538i-C'Official Expulsion of the being LRH from Scn - Add C' 2 May 96
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
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