17 September 1996
RI-697i 'Telepathic Auditing for my Father - On Friendships'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-697i for Internet
"So am I destroying your friendship
by asking you to look at these things?
Koos Nolst Trenite"
It is the INTENTION TO, AGAINST ALL ODDS,
BRING ABOUT UNDERSTANDING - WHICH IS LIFE -
that counts.
What is most important is
the desire and INTENTION
to bring about understanding,
no matter what the odds are.
That intention
is completely senior
to any procedure or pattern
of communication or of Auditing.
Maybe I will at some time
tell you the story
of how I got Jutta back from Hell,
a task which could be a story from old Greek Mythology.
But
with results beyond the belief of
still many readers.
"Any sane parent
who would have me as a son,
would thank God for this gift, and
would spend his whole life working
to make others and Mankind also
enjoy the gift
of my life-force,
of my talent, and
of my love for others and for Mankind.
Koos Nolst Trenite"
Confessional-session on "Pa" (Koos's father), on 12 Sept 96, 10:54 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
[Auditor:] How are you doing now? LFBD
[Pa:]
"We were very upset about your view of us. LFBDBD LFBD
(see RI-688i 'Handling parents - a psychotic mother' 7 Sept 96
RI-689i 'Auditing a psychotic telepathically' 7 Sept 96)
"Now, you can have your viewpoint about us,
but let us have our viewpoint about ourselves.
"We, you and I, really do best
if we keep our communication to the minimum.
"I do not want to meet you. LFBD
We live in different worlds." LFBD LFBD
[Auditor:] How are you doing now? LFBD
"I am an old man and I am living with Ma. LF
"Life hasn't been easy for you, LFBD LFBD
and it has also not been easy for us.
"I don't want to meet you. LFBDBD
I also did not like
that you suggested
that we meet each other WITHOUT Ma. LFBDBDBD
"You live your life. LFBD
I live mine.
"Like this, we avoid any friction."
LFBD-F/Nind
Total session time: 00:24 min
Highly specialized OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 280 $ total cost.
Confessional-session on "Pa" (Koos's father), on 12 Sept 96, 12:31 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
[Auditor:] WHO ARE YOU? LFBD
[Pa:]
"I am Pa, Koos's father. LFBD
I am also Ma's husband!" LFBD
[Auditor:] Who are you?
"I am a bit tired. LF
I do not like fights." LFBD
[Auditor:] Thank you for telling me. I repeat my question:
Who are you? LFBD
"I am afraid of Koos's communications to me,
because he always asks me to become aware of something
I do not want to be aware of, LFBD
neither do I want to admit THAT." LFBD
[Auditor:] Thank you for telling me. I repeat my question:
Who are you?
"I am somebody
who does not want to be responsible
for Ma's [Koos's mother] complaints about Koos. LFBD
"I NEVER liked that." LFBD LFBD
[Auditor:] Who are you?
"I am somebody
who rather lets her have her go,
than tell her
that SHE refuses to be in communication with Koos, LFBD LFBDBD
and
that she wants to be irresponsible for Koos and hides behind me,
and
that she in family life wants to have the praise LFBD
but no responsibility.
"And I AM SOMEONE
WHO IS UNWILLING TO TELL HER THE TRUTH." LFBD
LFBD-F/Nind
Total session time: 00:29 min
Highly specialized OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 338 $ total cost.
Confessional-session on "Pa" (Koos's father), on 12 Sept 96, 17:23 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
[Auditor:] WHAT IS REALLY YOU? LF
[Pa:]
"I once liked to communicate to Koos. LFBD
I once liked to have Koos around me. LFBD
"I once liked that Koos showed interest in me:
in my occupations,
in my opinions. LFBD
"I was not sending him away." LFBD
[Auditor:] What is really you?
"In Art:
when I play with different material, specially wood, and
when I create some piece with color harmonies and interesting shapes,
that is really me.
"At times, I have imitated
other painters or sculptors, LFBD LFBD
who created something and half destroyed it again, or
brought intentionally disharmony into their paintings and
explained it with 'our times being chaotic and disharmonious'. LFBD
Maybe it [my imitating them]
is just being interesting, being 'modern'." LFBD
[Auditor:] What is really you? LFBD LFBD
"I don't mind to send Koos some money.
I would have continued, 'had he not made Ma upset'. LFBD
"There are things in life
which you keep to yourself and
do not discuss in the open, LFBD LFBD
like this, about Ma."
[Auditor:] What is really you?
"I like to discuss all kinds of things.
Ma doesn't." LFBD LFBD
[Koos:] WHY DO YOU WANT TO KEEP MA INSANE?
[Pa:]
"Ma GETS insane when you confront her with things that
she does not want to talk about,
or doesn't want to look at.
"I do not want to keep her insane. LF
I want to keep her calm and in a cheerful mood."
[Koos:] This is how you agreed with her
to destroy Koos when Koos was 14 years old.
This is how you agreed with her
to destroy Weija [Koos's sister] completely
when Weija was about 16 or 18:
'just to keep Ma in a cheerful mood'.
Do you see how evil you yourself have become
by wanting to keep Ma insane,
by refusing to confront her intentions to destroy life?
WHY DO YOU WANT TO KEEP MA INSANE? LFBD
[Pa:]
"Don't you see
that I live with Ma and
that I do not want to have fights every day,
nor a life without talking to each other?
"There are thousands of things we CAN talk about." LFBD
[Auditor:] Why do you want to keep Ma insane?
[Pa:]
"I do not know how to change her."
[Koos:] Well,
you have destroyed Koos's life with it,
you have destroyed Weija's life with it,
you have destroyed your own life with it, and
you are continuously destroying Ma's life with it.
[Auditor:] Why do you want to keep Ma insane?
[Pa:]
"Don't you exaggerate with
'your life being destroyed'?
'Ma destroyed your life...'
'I destroyed your life...'
"Is Ma saner now,
since you told her and others
the 'truth' that she is insane and psychotic?
"What WOULD really bring us together again
and in communication?"
[Koos:] [That] you will start to confront Ma and
[that] you will stop driving her insane and
[that] you will stop your criminal behavior towards me." LF
(Pa is still reflecting about this.
Koos is very determined to make him look.)
[Pa:]
"I do understand something of Koos's words:
if I start to confront Ma as she is,
that she refuses to communicate to Koos about
what she really had done to Koos,
if I confront
that Ma refuses to even consider
that she HAS done something to Koos
(maybe she knows it, but she is not talking about it), LFBD
IF I START TO CONFRONT MA's LIES
AND DO NOT TRY TO DEFEND HER,
I CAN HELP HER TO BE SANER."
[Koos:] That's right! Thank you.
We end the session here (for dinner).
(Dinner Break)
[Auditor:] Why do you want to keep Ma insane?
[Pa:] "We are old now."
[Auditor:] Why do you want to keep Ma insane?
"I did not consider her insane."
[Auditor:] Why do you want to keep Ma insane?
"She is only upset
that Koos doesn't 'let things of the past
be things of the past'." LFBD
[Auditor:] Why do you want to keep Ma insane?
(communication lag, no answer yet) LFBD
[Koos:] As soon as Ma goes into a fit, and
each time she has a psychotic break,
each time she decides to be forcefully evil,
each time she decides to be mean, to scream and shout,
you give in to her, and you do what she wants.
This makes you into a criminal bastard as well,
which you have proven at many times.
The point is
that you LET Ma be
as insane, as destructive, as mean, and as evil
as she wants to be.
This is, of course, DRIVING her insane.
And such 'solutions' do drive ANYBODY insane.
Therefore the question:
'Why do you want to make her insane?'
[Pa:]
"When I gave in to her, SHE WAS QUIET AGAIN.
This seemed to be a workable solution.
I DID NOT CONSIDER THAT THIS WOULD MAKE HER INSANE."
[Auditor:] Why do you want to make her insane? LFBD
[Pa:]
"I want to live with her and
not have continuous fights with her.
ONE OF US HAS TO GIVE IN."
[Koos:] She starts screaming and shouting to you:
'Get rid of Koos!
Get rid of Koos!
Destroy Koos!
I never want to see him!'
And you give in [to her]
and follow her destructive impulse
- with which she basically wants to destroy herself.
How do you consider THAT making her saner,
when you give in to her
so that she stops screaming and shouting?
[Pa:]
"That's NOT making her saner.
"But I thought to teach you, Koos, a lesson:
that now, for example,
WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN ALONG FINE,
had you not started again to call your mother psychotic.
"I wanted communication to you,
we exchanged some letters.
All seemed fine.
"And then your last communications.
I do not know what you want from us." LFBD
[Koos:] This is your intention
TO BE A 'HAPPY SLAVE', and
to try and enforce on me and others
to also be 'happy slaves', LFBD
and
to let lies and evil reign.
As you know,
the (West) Frisian 'Grutte Pier' said
'Better dead than slave', and
you even agreed
to the relevant parts
of L. Ron Hubbard's Code of Honor.
So you were sending me little bits of money,
shamefully small bits,
which were just enough to merit a reply from my side,
in order that I agree with your evil behavior
towards Ma and towards me
of giving in to her demands
for destruction of friendship, of honesty and decency.
Do you understand this?
[Pa:]
"You think I bribed you by sending you money
so that you don't ask of me
to get also Ma join our slowly growing friendship."
[Koos:] That is correct.
And you confessed as much yourself just now
by describing what you wanted of me towards Ma.
Furthermore, the amounts were so small
that they were not more than
the cost of inviting me for a dinner.
And that in intervals of 3 or 4 months.
So the intention was: LFBD
'HAVE DINNER ON MY COST
AND DON'T MENTION IN ANY WAY
THAT MA DESTROYED OUR FRIENDSHIP AND
THAT I WILL COMPLY WITH HER INTENTION TO KEEP IT SO.'
I am not a whore,
and you won't be able to make me into one,
and make me think or call that
friendship or a familiar relationship.
Do you understand that?
[Pa:] "Yes, I do."
[Note by Koos:
It finally sinks in,
so now we have a basis to work on
and actually start Auditing.]
[Koos:] WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME, THIS LIFETIME,
THAT YOU GAVE IN TO A PSYCHOTIC BREAK OF MA?
[Pa:]
"What do you understand as psychotic break?
Give me an example of a time when we lived together
and you observed one in Ma."
[Koos
(Assuming, erroneously,
that he just tries
to dodge [avoid answering] the question):]
I mean your present lifetime.
In your present lifetime,
when was the first time
that Ma had a psychotic fit,
and you couldn't handle it,
and instead
you gave in to her and did what she wanted?
[Pa:]
"I do understand that you mean my present lifetime.
But I still need to know
what you understand as a psychotic break or fit.
What is it?
What's the definition of it.
I am not familiar with the expression.
"The best is to remind me of a time
when Ma had a psychotic break
- so that I have an example of it."
[Koos:] Each time when Ma screams at another, or at you,
is a psychotic break of her.
There is nothing wrong with
screaming at another when necessary,
but when Ma does it,
she does it
in order to destroy another, and
in order to prevent another
from seeing or handling her insanity.
Do you understand that?
[Pa:]
"You mean the screaming is not her insanity?
What is her insanity then?"
[Koos:] THE INSANITY is the intentions behind it.
It IS THE INTENTION TO DESTROY ANOTHER.
It IS THE INTENTION TO DESTROY UNDERSTANDING.
It IS THE INTENTION TO DESTROY LIVELINESS OR ALIVENESS.
Each time Ma is angry,
she has the intention to destroy these things,
in another, and in herself.
Anger in itself, can be,
when used by a sane person, very survival.
Like now, I am angry
with your lies, and
with your intention to destroy understanding, and
with your intention to destroy friendship and decency and honesty.
Do you understand that?
[Pa:]
"Yes, I understand what you mean
by psychotic break or fits.
"I must admit
that I considered it NOT decent of you
that you called attention further onto Ma
as soon as I WAS willing
to have an exchange of friendship with you again."
[Koos:] You are lying,
and I have pointed that out to you.
You did not want to have a friendship,
- or you immediately withdrew your offer -
when Ma demanded and started to impose conditions
that she only would allow you to have a friendship
if I behave like a whore as described above.
In this way,
SHE HAS DESTROYED ALL THE MANY FRIENDSHIPS YOU HAD,
because
she demanded of all your friends
that they don't look at her, and
she demanded of all your friends
that they also don't tell you
that you are a lackey [a puppet] to her.
Your offer of friendship was a pretense,
and - in order to cover your pretense up -
you accuse ME of "destroying the friendship offered".
This is standard practice
of anybody who wants to cover up
his own pretense and dishonesty.
In order to "handle" Ma's violent psychotic break
where she wanted to destroy me and
tried to get rid of me into a boarding school,
you "solved" it by
destroying your friendship with me, and
giving in to Ma's intention to destroy life.
I HAVE SO MUCH LIFE AND LOVE TO GIVE,
THAT ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GET RID OF ME,
- like Ma wanted and wants to get rid of me
since my very youth -
PROVES HIMSELF OR HERSELF
TO BE A PSYCHOTIC AND ANTI-SOCIAL BEING.
(see RI-67Ri 'How to drive others insane' of 24 June 1992)
And as you know,
Ma wanted to have it seen by others
the opposite way, LFBD
but she has confessed to me now
that she IS a psychotic and anti-social being
who PRETENDS to be social LFBD
when in contact with others.
You know how much life I was capable of giving, and
you enjoyed every bit of it, and
you were proud of me, of my being so, LFBD
and
you destroyed it all
by giving in to Ma [to Ma's intentions to destroy life]. LFBD
Any sane parent
who would have me as a son,
would thank God for this gift and
would spend his whole life working
to make others and Mankind also
enjoy the gift
of my life-force,
of my talent and
of my love for others and for Mankind.
Yet you refuse, on orders of Ma to do so.
Moreover,
you refuse to even visit me since 20 years.
You refuse to have any
decent and constructive communication with me since 35 years.
You refuse to receive me since 15 years.
And that all on order of
the utter psychotic and anti-social being
which Ma is, and has been for a very long time.
Do you get me now?
[Pa:] "Yes. I get you!"
[Koos:] WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR PRESENT LIFETIME
THAT YOU GAVE IN TO A PSYCHOTIC BREAK OF MA?
[Pa:]
"Something with her father, LFBD
but I do not recall it so well."
[Koos:] What was Ma's psychotic break there? LFBD
"She wanted to make me give in to her father."
[Koos:] What did she do
to try and make you give in to her father?
"She got angry and accused me
that we would be ruined
if I wouldn't give in to her father."
[Koos:] How was she trying to destroy you by that?
"I didn't see it that dramatic as
that we would be ruined.
"She made me give in to a - as you would call it -
suppressive demand of her father."
[Koos:] What did she want you
to not find out about her father?
[Pa:]
"That her father was a very authoritarian person
and had no liking for her mother, nor for family." LF
[Koos:] Thank you!
What did Ma then not want you
to find out about herself?
[Pa:]
"That she was afraid of her father and
that she tried to avoid any conflict with him,
instead of opposing him."
[Koos:] Did you give in to Ma's psychotic break
at that time?
[Pa:] "Yes! I did."
[Koos:] How did you give in to Ma's psychotic break, then?
"I did what her father wanted from me." LFBD
[Koos:] And that was? LFBD
"To work for him for little pay,
that is, to be satisfied with the little pay." LFBD
[Koos:] IS THERE AN EARLIER TIME
that you gave in to a psychotic demand of Ma?
[Pa:] "YOU ASKED ALREADY FOR THE EARLIEST ONE."
[Koos:] AND NOW I ASK FOR AN EARLIER TIME.
[Koos:] Is there an earlier time
that you gave in to a psychotic break of Ma?
(Pa is looking) LF's
[Pa:]
"[At a time] when we were not yet married,
and [where] I found it cute, charming, interesting: LFBDBDBDBD
"It was to me
like she had a very strong interest in being with me. LFBD
And so I gave in.
"I wanted to see her, but only a week later.
"And she was upset with me about that,
and it was a make-wrong:
I REALLY wanted to see her.
But she accused me of 'having too little time for her'."
[Koos:] What insanity of hers
was she trying to make you not look at?
[Pa:]
"[Her insanity of]
Not wanting to believe honest intentions.
Not looking at intentions,
not wanting to see for herself
whether the intentions were good or bad.
Mistrusting." LFBD
[Note by Koos:
ALL INSANITY
CAN BE TRACED BACK TO
AN UNWILLINGNESS OR REFUSAL
TO SEE FOR ONESELF THE INTENTIONS OF OTHERS.
Intentions are invisible,
except to spiritual beings,
which you all are.
The MAIN AND FOREMOST efforts
of a Suppressive Person are
to hide or misrepresent his intentions, and
to diminish or block
the desire and ability of others to perceive intentions.]
[Koos:] What insanity of Ma's
does she want to not be responsible for, and
instead have it so-called "solved"
by marrying you? LFBD
[Pa:]
"I do not like to consider myself
as a solution to an insanity."
[Koos:] You better get used to the idea. LFBD
[Pa:]
"[Ma's insanity:]
Refusal to handle her father.
Wanting to get away from her father. LFBD
"Relying on somebody else to handle something
she does not want to confront,
BUT then inhibiting the handling of it, or LFBD LFBD
destroying the possibility of handling it."
[Note by Koos:
He describes the insanity of Ma correctly.
Mental space brightens up.
He finally starts to confront his wife.]
[Koos:] That is correct.
How come you are suddenly so bright?
[Pa:] "I looked at the earliest time."
[Koos:] And who asked you to look at it?
[Pa:] "Koos, you did. And I am glad you did!" LFBD
[Koos:] So - am I destroying your friendship
by asking you to look at these things? LFBD LFBD
[Pa:] "No. Not at all!
"I see that Ma
had INHIBITED the handling of
what SHE refused to handle,
by imposing her conditions on
how something should be handled. LFBD
"It would have been better
[if] she would have kept herself
completely out of the handling."
[Koos:] What is Koos's intention towards you? LFBDBD
[Pa:]
"You want me to look at Ma, and
handle life as I find it okay, and
not as she wants me to handle it for her." LFBD
[Koos:] Very good.
Is that a good intention towards you
or
is that a bad intention towards you?
[Pa:] "That's a GOOD intention towards me. LFBD
LFBD's LFBD's-F/Nind
[Koos:] Is there anything you want to say or ask
before we end this session?
[Pa:]
"Thank you Koos. LFBD's
I will use that!"
Total session time: 05:02 min
Highly specialized OT HCO Sec Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 3,523 $ total cost.
[The abbreviations F(Fall) LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down)
and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the E-meter,
indicating mental charge (F, LF, LFBD), and release of charge
completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.
See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96]
(The data revealed in HCO Security Checks are not confidential.
They are used to detect hidden crimes, and the data is used by
the group to stop the crimes and to apply group-justice to the
criminal, based on what he ACTUALLY did, rather than on what
others believe or are led to believe he did.
The purpose is to have real justice both for the criminal and
for the groupmembers who have been affected by his crimes.)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite
reference:
RI-543i 'Dictators' of 22 July 1994, issued 2 May 1996
RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
RI-631i 'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
RI-19i 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-592i 'How To Look At People' of 5 June 1996
RI-269i 'How to Handle Irresponsible People' of 26 Sept 1995
RI-537i 'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
RI-242Ri 'Being There - Freedom to Act' of 22 July 1995
RI-449i 'A Rule For Freedom' of 14 Jan 1996
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995
RI-274i 'Setting Own Awareness-Level - Use of Vital Data' 8 Oct 95
RI-235i 'Handling people with Understanding' of 14 July 1995
RI-514i 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY IMPORTANT' 16 Mar 96
RI-553i 'Decency and Honesty - Condition of Hiding' 7 May 96
RI-617i 'Controlling Evil Intentions, how' of 28 June 1996
RI-58Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
RI-90i 'The Intention of a Suppressive' of 9 Oct 1993
RI-126Ri 'Koos Nolst Trenite - identity' of 29 Mar 1995
RI-480i 'Koos Nolst Trenite - Life-story' of 14 Feb 1996
RI-217i 'Choosing Sides - As Ethics' of 24 June 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
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