27 March 1997
RI-811i 'Telepathic talk with my brother'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-811i for Internet
"It was easier to talk to you like that
than over the phone."
'Gijs'
My brother is a well-respected
medical specialist for Ear, Nose and Throat.
He is also an internationally renowned
surgeon (for plastic surgery).
This happens to be small family-talk,
done in this form because
I noticed that an upset of my brother had just started,
and I wanted to handle it immediately and thoroughly.
It is published to give you more reality
about the existence and use of telepathy.
Telepathic Auditing-session with my brother 'Gijs' [pronounced Chheyes],
on 27 March 1997, 12:42 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
reference:
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm
[Auditor (someone who listens):]
Tell me, what's happening?
[Auditor:] He isn't answering to me.
I see something with his wife and also with Koos' mother.
His wife being on the side of Koos' mother
but Gijs on Koos' father's side.
[Koos:] WHAT DID YOU ALMOST BECOME AWARE OF?
[Gijs:]
"That our mother doesn't like Koos."
[Auditor:] What happened?
[Gijs:]
"I phoned Ma [mother] and told her that I had talked with Koos LFBD
and she showed (not in words) that she didn't like that.
"I told my wife about it,
and she said I should understand Ma's rejection."
[Koos:] When did it happen?
[Gijs:] "This morning."
[Koos:] What happened this morning,
phoning Ma - or talking with Bregtje [Gijs' wife]?
[Gijs:] "Both."
[Koos:] What did you nearly find out about Bregtje?
[Gijs:]
"I was surprised that she would find it all right
that I shouldn't talk to Koos when Ma doesn't want it.
"Or better [formulated]:
I was surprised
that the matter was finished for her
with her 'Understand Ma!' to me, and
that she didn't want to understand
Koos, and Pa [Koos' father], and Koos' relation to Pa.
"Bregtje's reaction showed me
that I myself also haven't cared to understand much
about the relation of our parents to Koos.
"As a boy I have envied Koos for his close relation with Pa,
closer than mine with Pa.
"Later, they, both Pa and Ma, 'showed satisfaction' with me,
and we didn't have any friction:
They let me be, I let them be.
"And we exchanged friendly words [social talk].
"I did not interfere into their lives - and they not into mine.
"'Not interfering'
is also neglecting,
it is not wanting to know about their hidden thoughts -
Koos did want to know that,
which is good and bad, I am not sure what to think about it.
"I am torn between two opinions. LFBD
I found my 'Do what you think is right - I do what I think is right',
more comfortable."
[Koos:] I indicate [I want to state as facts] to you
that Ma has always forcefully tried to destroy
the relationship between Pa and Koos.
And when Koos was about 14 years old,
Ma succeeded partly in destroying that relationship
by demanding of Pa
that Koos be 'thrown out of the family'
by sending him to a Boarding School
if Koos would not bow down to Ma and become docile. LFBD
Ma succeeded further
in destroying the relationship between Koos and Pa
when someone betrayed Koos and refused to stay with Koos
- BECAUSE Koos had become much stronger and saner
after Koos did a communication course.
Ma chose the side of this person [who betrayed Koos] and
Ma found her to be 'totally right' and Koos to be 'totally wrong'.
Ma further succeeded
- by demonstratively leaving the house
and staying overnight with our sister Anne-Marie -
when Koos drove all the way from the South of Germany
to visit Pa and Ma in their house.
Ma drove Pa crazy
and Pa refused to see Ma's intentions. F's
Ma has continued to try to break the relationship fully
by heavily upsetting Pa about Koos
and continuously telling Pa and the rest of the family
'how bad a family member Koos is', and
'how bad Koos is to other people'.
Do you understand what I am telling you now by telepathy?
[Gijs:] "Yes, I do!" LFBD
[Koos:] WHY did you phone Ma this morning?
[Gijs:] "Just a greeting, some politeness."
[Koos:] What did you want to find out about her?
[Gijs:]
"That's the point:
I wanted to find out nothing about her,
just reassure myself that everything was fine."
[Koos:] What did Ma think that you MIGHT have found out about her
or that you might have wanted to find out about her?
[Gijs:]
"Whether she really had and has
such a great interest in her family or not." LFBD
[Koos:] What does Bregtje (your wife) not want to understand about Ma?
[Gijs:]
"That Ma PRETENDED to have a lot of interest
in all of us and also in Koos, and
that she wants to make us believe that 'Koos rejected her'." LFBD
[Koos:] And what did you ALMOST FIND OUT about Ma
when you phoned her,
regarding her being interested in her family or not?
[Gijs:]
"That it was Ma
who had stopped communicating to Koos, and
that it is she
who didn't intend to give him any communication
nor wanted to get communication from Koos
- [and not the other way around]."
[Koos:] What does Bregtje (your wife)
not want to understand about Koos?
[Gijs:]
"That Koos wants to stay in communication: LFBD
That he wants to give communication and
that he also wants to get communication."
[Koos:] Why does Ma want
that Koos does not exist anymore in her (Ma's) life?
[Gijs:]
"Maybe she is ashamed of what she did to Koos." LFBD
[Koos:] What did Ma do to Koos? LFBD
[Gijs:]
"She has never tried to understand Koos:
Not Koos' emotions, nor Koos' intentions.
"For her, life went according to certain (fixed) patterns
[as a substitute for actually being alive].
That was 'life' for her and she tried to impart THAT to us.
"I didn't mind her so much, I just went my own way. LF
I didn't want understanding and real communication from her.
I also didn't make it my business
to change her or make her understand life better." LF
[Koos:] What did Ma hide from Koos?
[Gijs:]
"That she didn't want to have Koos around." LF
[Koos:] Right! What did Ma do to Koos?
[Gijs:]
"She ran away from Koos. LF
She had no place for Koos in her life,
not for the real Koos, as Koos is."
[Koos:] What did Ma hide from Koos? F
[Gijs:]
"You see, I haven't really observed her much.
She wanted admiration and validation from all of us."
[Koos:] Right! [She was part of the Serenity-group
that I have reported about.]
So, what did Ma hide from Koos?
[Gijs:]
"SHE DIDN'T WANT ANYONE OF US TO HAVE HIS OR HER OWN VIEWPOINT,
EXCEPT WHAT SHE CONSIDERED 'AN ACCEPTED VIEWPOINT' -
whatever that was: Sometimes it was Pa's viewpoint.
"Ma did not want to understand Koos, nor Koos' ideas.
"For myself,
I [found a solution that] made it 'easy' for her:
I mostly gave her something [about me] to admire -
and then she was happy."
[Koos:] Good!
What did Ma do to our sister Weia? LFBD LF's LFBD
[Gijs:]
"Ma did not allow Weia to talk to her about her [Weia's] problems:
Instead, Ma told Pa to 'talk to Weia'.
"And [so], Weia had [in fact] no one to really talk to."
[Koos:] What did Ma do to Pa regarding Weia?
[Gijs:]
"I think Ma complained about Weia to Pa,
and Ma always wanted him - instead of herself -
to do something [about Weia]: 'YOU do something!'"
[Koos:] What would these complaints of Ma
to Pa about Weia have been, for instance?
[Gijs:]
"That Weia didn't help Ma.
That Weia was bad at studying, in school.
That Weia wasn't enthusiastic about her job."
[Koos:] What did Ma hide from Weia?
[Gijs:]
"That Ma expected Weia to be 'good', tracking along fine,
and
that Ma DID NOT WANT TO KNOW the problems Weia had with it." LF's
[Koos:] How does Ma seem to you now?
[Gijs:]
"I see her clearer now than before.
"I don't find it OK what she is doing to Koos,
nor what she did to all of us,
only I wasn't so much touched by it
because I [anyway] did not want
her real [true, genuine] interest in me.
I kept her away from me.
I was satisfied with
giving her, and getting from her, only social talk."
[Koos:] How does Bregtje (your wife) seem to you now? LFBD
[Gijs:]
"We normally do not have such social talk
in my own family (with my wife and my children).
"I will [tonight go and] talk to her [about Ma].
Bregtje does not refuse understanding
when she is helped to understand."
[Koos:] How does Koos seem to Bregtje now?
[Gijs:]
"Bregtje did not have an antagonistic attitude towards Koos, but
SHE 'TRIED TO UNDERSTAND MA',
WHICH WAS ACTUALLY A REFUSAL TO UNDERSTAND." LFBD
[Koos:] How does Ma seem to Bregtje now?
[Gijs:]
"She has a kind of pity for 'Ma being such a "lonely person".'
But Bregtje doesn't agree with Ma's
lack of real cordiality [true, genuine friendliness]." LFBD
[Koos:] Is there something else that you are still upset about? LFBD
[Gijs:]
"No! I enjoyed looking at these things with you." F/Nind
[Koos:] I indicate to you that mental charge has disappeared.
[Gijs:]
"IT WAS EASIER TO TALK TO YOU LIKE THAT, THAN OVER THE PHONE."
F/Nind
[Koos:] Is there anything you would like to say or ask
before we end this talk?
[Gijs:] "Not for the moment. Thank you!" LFBD
[Koos:] Thank you, too, for [telepathically] answering
and staying in communication.
'Gijs'
Total session time: 2 hrs 56 min
Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 3,453 US $ total cost.
(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)
(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite
Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com
Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/
Library Search Engine
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html
References (available at the Library http://Art-Org.com):
(about Koos' parents and family)
RI-767i 'My mother crediting me' of 21 Dec 1996
RI-688i 'Handling parents - a psychotic mother' of 7 Sept 1996
RI-689i 'Auditing a psychotic telepathically' of 7 Sept 1996
RI-697i 'Telepathic Auditing for my Father - On Friendships' of 17 Sept 96
RI-698i 'Treat a Psychotic as a Psychotic (on my mother)' of 18 Sept 1996
(about Koos Nolst Trenite)
RI-126Ri 'Koos Nolst Trenite - identity' of 29 Mar 1995
RI-480i 'Koos Nolst Trenite - Life-story' of 14 Feb 1996
(about marriage and family and problems in marriage)
RI-759i 'Understanding a Typical Marriage Problem' of 12 Dec 1996
RI-543i 'Dictators' of 22 July 1994, issued 2 May 1996
RI-631i 'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
RI-537i 'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
RI-734i 'Orienting Children' of 13 Nov 1996
RI-781BPI'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 14 Jan 97
RI-713i 'Handling Attacks Correctly - Space and Love' 18 Oct 1996
RI-602i 'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996
RI-785i 'On Not Remedying Disagreements - "Not Talking"' of 24 Jan 97
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
(about art and about religion)
RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 1996
RI-738Si 'Christianity - Love, and Guilt solved' shortened 22 Dec 96
(about understanding and handling criminals and enemies)
RI-058Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
RI-487i 'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility' of 20 Feb 1996
RI-535i '"An Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" = INSANE' of 10 Apr 1996
RI-646i 'FACING those who are mean or dishonest' of 31 July 1996
(about RI-Bulletins)
RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or
at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com
or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI
Back to the RI-Bulletin index.