17 April 1997
RI-830i 'Diana Ross - Responsibility for Michael Jackson'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-830i for Internet
"I thought I cared for quite a lot of people,
but I think I could do much more."
'Diana Ross'
(This is part of a series of RI-Bulletins with Diana Ross and Koos
helping each other to care for humanity:
Search for 'Diana Ross'
at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html".)
Telepathic Interview with Diana Ross,
on 17 April 1997, 20:24 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
[Auditor:] What has Michael Jackson withheld from you?
(she is looking)
[Diana:]
"There are many things which he hasn't told me.
"I consider it everyone's right to have their privacy. LFBD
[Koos:] What did he not tell you that he should have told you,
either
for his own well-being, or
for your well-being, or
for the well-being of others?
[Diana:]
"He didn't tell me
about his experiences with Scientology, and
he didn't tell me
that he was really upset about
attempts to make him into a Scientology celebrity
[who is] engaging in and
[who is] being used
for promotion for Scientology
like John Travolta or others [are],
when he [Michael] came privately
to get the personal enhancement that he was promised."
[Koos:] Was there something that would have been
either for his own well-being
or for your well-being
or for the well-being of others
to tell you about?
[Diana:]
"He should have told me and others
what he was upset about and
why he left,
so that others get more reality about Scientology."
[Koos:] Very good!
This is the meaning of my [question]
when I asked what has Michael withheld from you.
We continue with this question:
What else has Michael Jackson withheld from you?
(after having repeated the question several times)
[Koos:] OK!
If you do not have an answer to this question,
then we go to the next question, and that is:
What has Michael Jackson done to you
that diminished
either your well-being,
or his well-being,
or the well-being of others?
[Diana:]
"He hasn't done anything to me.
"I have no mis-emotions [bad emotions] against him."
[Koos:] We are entering here the subject of responsibility
which goes together with looking at what somebody is doing.
So, I'd like to re-formulate the question:
What responsibility could Michael have taken for you
which he didn't?
[Diana:]
"That question makes me aware
that I didn't EXPECT of him
to take responsibility for me.
"My problem at a time in my life was
that others took nearly all responsibility for me,
and I had to insist that I get responsibility for myself."
[Koos:] Tell me the difference
between
'somebody taking responsibility away from you'
and
'someone taking RESPONSIBILITY FOR you?'
[Diana:]
"One is
keeping life away from me, and
inhibiting my understanding of it and
declining to teach me, or
declining to let me find out myself
the skill of running my own affairs,
the other is
helping me and advising me to be successful in it."
[Koos:] Very good!
So we return to the question:
What responsibility could Michael have taken for YOU
which he didn't?
[Diana:]
"I see no moment in my life where he could have done so.
[Koos:] Well, well, well, well!
Could you imagine Michael doing anything for you
which would help you to increase your responsibility? LFBD
[Diana:]
"I normally get together with the people I want to work with.
"I have no plan on Michael for that."
[Koos:] What responsibility could Michael Jackson have taken for KOOS
that he [Michael] didn't take?
[Diana:]
"He could have validated you, Koos, for your help,
by getting in contact with you,
finding out what you need help in:
In any Art project or
in any project regarding the Church of Scientology,
or [something] else."
(see RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'M. Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96)
[Koos:] What responsibility could you have taken for Michael
which you didn't?
(no answer from Diana yet)
[Koos:] Could you have stopped him from taking drugs? LFBD
[Diana:]
"I doubt [it], but I never tried."
[Koos:] Could you have taken responsibility
that Michael takes more care of his friends?
[Diana:]
"Offhand I would say:
"Hardly,
Michael has made up his mind
that too many people wanted to give him advice on his life, and
that he would decide personal matters alone.
"But I understand your pointing out to me
that I did not give him much help.
"Well, I seem to come to the same conclusion
from what you tell me.
[Koos:] It always needs somebody else
to help one realize what one doesn't look at oneself.
I wish I had some people
to look at those things that I don't look at
- as I find those people extremely valuable. LF's
[Diana:]
"I agree in that."
[Koos:] What could you have helped Michael in, but didn't?
[Diana:]
"Could we have made some projects together??
"I am not sure about that."
[Koos:] You knew him as a boy and
I am sure he looked up to you and
I am sure you had a great influence on him
when you had him in your shows and
when he was around you.
So,
what help could you have given him there,
what responsibility could you have taken for him there,
apart from having him in your show,
what responsibility for him as a being
for his life,
for his family life,
for his personal well-being,
for his problems,
for his education,
for his relations with others and so on.
[Diana:]
"Right, there is a lot that I did
for my children [which was] self-understood [to me]
which I didn't do for him.
[Koos:] Good! For instance?
[Diana:]
"I could have had an influence on him
regarding whom he chooses as his friends. LFBD
"I could have, or should have, had a serious word with him
regarding drugs. LFBD
"I could have cared to find out
how he is doing in life as a private person."
[Koos:] It's getting late here.
I'd like to continue next time.
Is there anything that you would like to say or ask
before we end off for now?
[Diana:]
"I thought I cared for quite a lot of people,
but I think I could do much more.
"And I am a bit ASHAMED about
having thought
that I am - despite all my occupations and family - somehow alone.
"There is still so much to do.
[Koos:] Do you understand
that it is one and a half hour past midnight here and
that I still want to help Jutta now
to get herself in better shape and
that we will continue at a better time?
(Continued in
RI-831i 'Diana Ross - Care for Michael Jackson' of 20 Apr 97)
[Diana:]
"That's understood.
"Thanks for your thoughts for me and your questions.
[Koos:] It's a great pleasure to be in communication with you.
We end the session now.
'Diana Ross'
Total session time: 2 hrs 55 min
Highly specialized Telepathic Interview
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 2,042 US $ cost.
(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)
(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' of 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite
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References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):
AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981
AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990
AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994
References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):
RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96
RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995
RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96
RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
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