26 April 1997
RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-839i for Internet
"It is an evil act - often committed -
to demand from another
(whether from a child or from an adult does not matter)
to be "respectful" to a suppressive person.
In fact, you can ruin someone's life with it."
'Ambassador for Mankind'
(see also
RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person'
RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I'
RI-840i 'Recovering my father - Part II'
RI-846i 'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy')
Telepathic Auditing-session with Pa (Koos' father),
on 25 April 1997, 08:50 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
(An Auditor is someone who listens.)
reference:
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"There were a lot of things that I wanted to do for Koos, LFBD
but not now anymore."
[Auditor:] I repeat the question:
What would you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"I once wanted to do something for Koos, LFBD
but now not anymore." LFBD
[Auditor:] What did I nearly find out about you?
[Pa:]
"I had a lot of liking for Koos. He was my son.
Then, at a certain moment, LFBD
I listened to Ma [Koos' mother]
(see RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person')
what she wanted me to tell Koos
and
I withdrew my liking for Koos. LFBD
(see RI-688i 'Handling parents - a psychotic mother' of 7 Sept 1996)
"I became careful about
just liking him and feeling close to him." LFBD
[Auditor:] When?
[Pa:]
"When Ma
made me take a 'serious stand' towards Koos and
made me cite the law
[that 'children must follow the orders of their parents'] -
at that moment
I destroyed my spontaneous liking for Koos.
[Note by Koos:
Children must to some extent
follow the SURVIVAL orders of their parents -
but when they are given
destructive, anti-survival orders,
they must and can find ways
not to execute such orders, and
they must and can find ways
to seek protection against
such orders given by parents (as well as by teachers).]
[Pa:]
"It was when Ma talked to me
about wanting my support against
'Koos's upheaval about and respectlessness towards her'.
"I felt like being 'caught in the act':
Having had a good time with Koos LFBD
without regard to what Ma was telling me about Koos. LFBDBDBDBD
"Me being like an older brother to Koos,
who enjoys doing all kinds of games
that his younger brother [Koos] is inciting him to do:
'Stealing apples',
laughing about fearful people,
sailing in a storm despite warnings of danger,
enjoying myself heartily,
until a 'gouvernante' [governess] scolds me
that 'I am not responsible for my "younger brother"'
which I am expected to be, as the older person."
[Auditor:] What has nearly been found out about that? LFBD
[Pa:]
"I was enjoying Koos' company LFBD
more than I enjoyed Ma's company.
[That's not very difficult! (Note by Koos)]
[Pa:]
"I laughed about Ma's fears [about the storms] on the boat,
at other times
I was rejecting Ma's communication to me:
When she talked about something that she didn't understand
as if she understood a lot about it.
"I was grouchy and didn't want to listen to her,
BUT I DIDN'T TELL HER
[That was his mistake,
by which ruined his own life
as well as making Koos' life miserable
from that time onwards. (Note by Koos)] and
sometimes I made a crack [a joke] about it, and
on the whole I preferred to have Koos around me [rather than Ma].
[Well, who wouldn't. (Note by Koos)]
[Pa:]
"Until she talked me into
'being serious about Koos', and
being '"responsible" for Koos'
[when Koos was around the age of fourteen]." LFBDBD
[Auditor:] Who nearly found out about that?
[Pa:]
"Ma, at that time." LFBDBD
[Auditor:] What did she do that made you think she knew?
[Pa:]
"She made me
change my attitude towards Koos, and
take on an artificial role,
when she made me cite the law to Koos
[Civil Code about the relationship between parents and children].
"AND I DID THIS TO PREVENT HER
FROM KNOWING
THAT I myself
ALSO had been 'naughty', and respectless to her,
as she told me Koos was
[I had been in the SAME way 'respectless to her'
as she now told me Koos was
(and for which she told me I should reprimand Koos)]." LFBD
(see RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person')
[Note by Koos:
Koos is rather respectless to suppressive persons.
It is an evil act - often committed -
to demand from another
(whether from a child or from an adult does not matter)
to be "respectful" to a suppressive person.
In fact, you can ruin someone's life with it.
(see for correct definition of respect
RI-831i 'Diana Ross - Care for Michael Jackson' of 20 Apr 97
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-831i.htm)
Suppressive Persons have it as a standard tactic and strategy
'to demand "respect" of others for them'.
In fact,
when someone forcefully demands "respect"
which is not earned and not explained,
but only enforced,
this is a strong indicator
that you have to do
with a suppressive person or a suppressive institution.
(see the 'Understanding Suppression Series'
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp.htm)]
[Auditor:] Who else nearly found out about that? LF
[Pa:]
"Koos. F's
"Koos did find out about that, LFBD
and he did [now] let everybody know about it,
without my consent." LFBD LFBDBD
(see RI-697i 'Telepathic Auditing for my Father - On Friendships' Sep 96)
[Auditor:] Who else nearly found out about it?
[Pa:]
"Jutta." LFBD
[Auditor:] What did Jutta do that made you think she knew? LFBD
[Pa:]
"Jutta did find it out in communicating to me." LFBD
"But I DON'T LIKE TO HURT MA BY TELLING HER that,
that what you found out about my attitude [then] to Ma
is true." LFBD
[He still wants to keep himself imprisoned
by Ma's evil intentions,
by refusing to openly point out her evil. (Note by Koos)]
[Auditor:] Who else nearly found out about it?
[Pa:]
"Gijs [Koos' brother]." LFBD
[Auditor:] What did he do that made you think he knew?
[Pa:]
"He keeps up an expected friendly communication
to his, now old, parents, and
he has never interfered in my relations with Ma,
but he kept himself at a distance.
"I think everybody of the family knows something about it, LFBD
but we are not talking about it. LFBD
"I feel freer [now] to let Ma know about it."
LF's-F/Nind
'Pa Nolst Trenite'
(continued in
RI-840i 'Recovering my father - Part II' of 26 Apr 1997)
Total session time: 1 hr 23 min
Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 1,237 US $ total cost.
(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)
(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite
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References (available at the Library http://Art-Org.com):
(about Koos' parents and family)
RI-846i 'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy' 28 Apr 97
RI-840i 'Recovering my father - Part II' of 26 Apr 97
RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I' of 26 Apr 97
RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person' Apr 97
RI-811i 'Telepathic talk with my brother' of 27 Mar 1997
RI-767i 'My mother crediting me' of 21 Dec 1996
RI-698i 'Treat a Psychotic as a Psychotic (on my mother)' of 18 Sept 1996
RI-697i 'Telepathic Auditing for my Father - On Friendships' 17 Sept 96
RI-689i 'Auditing a psychotic telepathically' of 7 Sept 1996
RI-688i 'Handling parents - a psychotic mother' of 7 Sept 1996
(about Koos Nolst Trenite)
RI-126Ri 'Koos Nolst Trenite - identity' of 29 Mar 1995
RI-480i 'Koos Nolst Trenite - Life-story' of 14 Feb 1996
RI-828i 'Koos Nolst Trenite personally visited' of 19 Apr 1997
(about marriage and family and problems in marriage)
RI-759i 'Understanding a Typical Marriage Problem' of 12 Dec 1996
RI-543i 'Dictators' of 22 July 1994, issued 2 May 1996
RI-631i 'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
RI-537i 'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
RI-734i 'Orienting Children' of 13 Nov 1996
RI-781BPI'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 14 Jan 97
RI-713i 'Handling Attacks Correctly - Space and Love' 18 Oct 1996
RI-602i 'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996
RI-785i 'On Not Remedying Disagreements - "Not Talking"' of 24 Jan 97
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
(about art and about religion)
RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 1996
RI-738Si 'Christianity - Love, and Guilt solved' shortened 22 Dec 96
(about understanding and handling criminals and enemies)
RI-058Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 950
RI-487i 'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility' of 20 Feb 1996
RI-535i '"An Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" = INSANE' of 10 Apr 1996
RI-646i 'FACING those who are mean or dishonest' of 31 July 1996
(about RI-Bulletins)
RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
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