26 April 1997
RI-840i 'Recovering my father - Part II'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-840i for Internet
"It's just like Koos thinks I am still forty,
or as if age doesn't count for Koos,
or as if I have no age.
"I think it's the last.
I like that!"
'"Pa" Nolst Trenite'
(see also
RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I'
RI-846i 'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy'
RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person')
Telepathic Auditing-session with Pa (Koos' father),
on 25 April 1997, 10:25 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
(An Auditor is someone who listens.)
reference:
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm
[Auditor:] What do you like to do FOR Koos? LFBD LF's LF's
[Pa:]
"I would like to
overtune ['sing louder than', be stronger in my communication than]
Ma's resistance against me communicating to Koos, LFBD
and [so]
open up communication to Koos again." F's
[Auditor:] What do you like to do TOGETHER WITH Koos? LFBD
[Pa:]
"I think now of the times
when I liked to do things together with Koos: LF
The time of the tug boat,
(see RI-767i 'My mother crediting me' of 21 Dec 1996)
the time when Koos accompanied me to my [honey-]bees,
times of talking with Koos.
(There was much GETTING FROM Koos for myself in it)."
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"I am still in the past regarding what I LIKED to do for him:
Pay and let him enjoy his voyage at sea, F
pay for his university time, F
buy the house in England for him to live in. LFBD
"I liked to contribute to what Koos liked to do." LF
[Auditor:] What do you like to do together with Koos?
[Pa:]
"Something with art."
[Note by Auditor:] It is very undefined, but it is there.
[Auditor:] What would you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"Sometimes I think
I'd like to see the whole family together
for a particular occasion -
with all the grandchildren. LFBD
"But that's not something just for Koos,
that's more something for me."
[Auditor:] I repeat my question:
What would you like to do for Koos? LFBD LFBD
[Pa:]
"I would somehow like to be part of Koos' life - LF
like I was when he was a kid, and he was part of my life.
"My life is quite empty, now,
although I wanted it like that.
[Note by Assistant Editor:
As a way
to escape both Ma and her jealous wrath, no doubt, and
to pretend that 'loneliness is better than
harassments and the pain of separation
or maintaining the strength to handle the situation'.
This is where you, Koos, are helping him
by making him look at it and by setting an example.]
[Pa:]
"But now I am talking about
what I would like to have for myself." LFBD
[Auditor:] I repeat my question:
What do you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"I'd like to listen to Koos
and hear what he would want from me. LFBD
"Certainly, I will get mad about him
in respect to all the things that he wants from me at once,
but I like to hear from him what he wants from me."
[Auditor:] What do you like to do together with Koos?
[Pa:]
"Sailing LFBD
on a big boat. LFBD
"Something with art. LFBD
"Understanding LFBD
what work Koos is doing now." LFBD
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"Meet Koos somewhere, WITHOUT Ma. LFBDBDBD
"There has often been tension LFBDBDBD
about Koos in our house when I and Ma were together.
"I would like to meet Koos somewhere
without tension [= without Ma]." LFBD
[Auditor:] What do you like to do together with Koos?
[Pa:]
"Sit together and talk, LFBDBD
find some point in common again." F's
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"Make Koos LFBD
part of my life again. LFBD
"End the 'keeping Koos away'." LFBD LFBD LFBD LFBDBD
[Auditor:] What do you like to do together with Koos?
[Pa:]
"Walk through the countryside,
travel together with Koos." LFBD
[Koos:] Have you ever travelled with Koos before? LF's LF's
[before this lifetime]
[Pa:]
"It looks like I have been
on a big ship with him, LFBDBDBDBD
on months-long tours over the oceans LFBD
[we were] of similar age and same rank, LFBD
in good collaboration.
"It is very familiar to me."
[Note by Koos:
Could he mean a time with young Canaris, German Navy?]
[Auditor:] Is there another time
of having travelled with Koos before? LFBDBD LFBD
[Pa:]
"Travelling through Austria, Germany,
long distances sometimes. LFBD
[Note by Koos:
This would be his time as Leopold Mozart,
the father of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.]
[Pa:]
"Full of excitement at times,
tiring and full of tension at other times.
"But always very close to Koos."
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos? LFBDBD
[Pa:]
"When Koos had the intention to create his Art Organisation,
I liked to give him some ideas of mine for it,
and help him somehow.
"I would like to organize something for Koos,
it feels also familiar - as if I have done it already before.
"But I am careful about that, LFBD
because
a) I have no idea WHAT I could organize for Koos,
b) I might become too schoolmasterly,
much to Koos' displeasure. LFBD
"Koos knows this about me -
that I have the intention
to want 'to know it all better'."
[Auditor:] What do you like to do together with Koos? LFBD
[Pa:]
"It's amazing that Koos would want me
to do something together with him: LF
I am an 'old man' now.
Nobody needs me.
All children have their own families.
"Nobody [of them] has the notion [gets the idea]
to want me to do something together with them. LFBD
[Note by Koos:
See however
RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person',
where it becomes clear
that my mother has arranged it this way,
in order to get all of Pa's attention for herself only.]
[Pa:]
"It's just like Koos thinks I am still forty,
or as if age doesn't count for Koos,
or as if I have no age. LF
"I think it's the last.
I like that!" LFBD
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos?
[Pa:]
"I would like to do something for Koos
if he wouldn't tell me
that I am doing it all wrong, and
that my help is no help, LFBD
and
I also wonder what Ma would say to it, LFBD
or Gijs [Koos' brother],
or Annemarie, or Dorothee or Lide [Koos' sisters].
"No - LFBD
I am not concerned about what they, the latter, would say to it.
"But what Ma would say to it - yes.
"But the problem is more
how to explain it to her.
How to give it a good reason." LFBD
[Auditor:] What do you like to do together with Koos?
[Pa:]
"A boat trip." LF
[Auditor:] What do you like to do for Koos? LF
[Pa:]
"I could help him easily with some money. LF
"It wouldn't hurt me.
It wouldn't impoverish me.
"It wouldn't make my other children upset.
Maybe? No, not really! LFBD
"[But] Ma would say:
'How can you!'
'How can you - after all the invalidations that came from Koos?'
"And Ma would remind me of my 'principles'.
"And Ma would consider it
a betrayal and
'not having a firm stand on Koos', and
'not protecting her against Koos'. LFBDBD
"We had that already before!!" LF
(see RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I' of 26 Apr 1997
and earlier RI-Bulletins on the subject of my parents
- see references below)
[Auditor:] What would you like to do together with Koos?
[Pa:]
"I WOULD like to do something together with Koos.
"I only hope
Koos will make it easy for me to start again. LFBD
"And that
he wouldn't at once want everything
handled, done, understood, by me. LFBD
"I am a bit scared of myself
that I then would want to withdraw into a thick shell,
pretending to 'have my principles':
'A Head of a family should have principles!' LFBD
And principles
'should be respected', and 'imparted to the children!' F
"I simply like to hear from Koos
and do something together with Koos.
LF-F/Nind
'Pa Nolst Trenite'
(continued in
RI-846i 'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy'
Total session time: 3 hrs 39 min
Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 2,555 US $ total cost.
(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)
(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite
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References (available at the Library http://Art-Org.com):
(about Koos' parents and family)
RI-846i 'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy' 28 Apr 97
RI-840i 'Recovering my father - Part II' of 26 Apr 97
RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I' of 26 Apr 97
RI-841i 'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person' Apr 97
RI-811i 'Telepathic talk with my brother' of 27 Mar 1997
RI-767i 'My mother crediting me' of 21 Dec 1996
RI-698i 'Treat a Psychotic as a Psychotic (on my mother)' of 18 Sept 96
RI-697i 'Telepathic Auditing for my Father - On Friendships' 17 Sept 96
RI-689i 'Auditing a psychotic telepathically' of 7 Sept 1996
RI-688i 'Handling parents - a psychotic mother' of 7 Sept 1996
(about Koos Nolst Trenite)
RI-126Ri 'Koos Nolst Trenite - identity' of 29 Mar 1995
RI-480i 'Koos Nolst Trenite - Life-story' of 14 Feb 1996
RI-828i 'Koos Nolst Trenite personally visited' of 19 Apr 1997
(about marriage and family and problems in marriage)
RI-759i 'Understanding a Typical Marriage Problem' of 12 Dec 1996
RI-543i 'Dictators' of 22 July 1994, issued 2 May 1996
RI-631i 'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
RI-537i 'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
RI-734i 'Orienting Children' of 13 Nov 1996
RI-781BPI'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 14 Jan 97
RI-713i 'Handling Attacks Correctly - Space and Love' 18 Oct 1996
RI-602i 'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996
RI-785i 'On Not Remedying Disagreements - "Not Talking"' of 24 Jan 97
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
(about art and about religion)
RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 1996
RI-738Si 'Christianity - Love, and Guilt solved' shortened 22 Dec 96
(about understanding and handling criminals and enemies)
RI-058Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 950
RI-487i 'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility' of 20 Feb 1996
RI-535i '"An Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" = INSANE' of 10 Apr 1996
RI-646i 'FACING those who are mean or dishonest' of 31 July 1996
(about RI-Bulletins)
RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or
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