26 April 1997


RI-841i  'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-841i for Internet



"At that time,
  I wanted to take revenge on Pa
   for Pa not giving me all the attention
    I wanted to get from him
     and
   for not admiring me
    as I wanted to be admired."

"I always wanted to have Pa all for myself,
  and
 I have wanted to prevent Pa from communicating,
  not only to Koos, but to others as well."


                    '"Ma" Nolst Trenite'


(see RI-839i 'Recovering my father - Part I'
     RI-840i 'Recovering my father - Part II'
     RI-846i 'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy')



Telepathic Auditing-session with Ma (my mother),
 on 26 April 1997, 08:39 GMT
 ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
 (An Auditor is someone who listens.)

reference:
   RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
   http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm



[Auditor:] What, if found out by 'Pa',
            would destroy you?  LFBDBDBD

[Ma:]
"I want to prevent Pa
  from having communication to Koos.  LFBDBD LFBD LFBDBD LFBD

"Now and then I tell Pa
  how happy I am about my other children and their family  LF
   and
  how much - on the contrary -
   Koos is making me unhappy and
   that he is a riddle to me.  LFBDBD

"I do this  LFBDBDBD
  in order that Pa thinks it is Koos
   who does not want to communicate to us.  LFBDBDBD

"But,
  I myself do not want to communicate to Koos.
  I myself do not want that Pa communicates to Koos.  LF's
  I myself do not want to GET communication from Koos.  F's

"I want that Pa thinks it is Koos
  who does not want to communicate to us."  LFBD



[Auditor:] What, if found out by Pa,
            would destroy you?  LFBD

[Ma:]
"I wanted to have Pa for myself.  LFBDBDBD
 I did not want to share Pa with Koos.  LFBD

"I was jealous about Koos' and Pa's good communication,
  when Koos was a young boy.  LFBD

"I wanted that Pa takes his attention off of Koos
  and gives it to me.  LFBDBD

"I wanted to sever the links  LFBD
  between Pa and Koos -  LFBD
    especially when I asked Pa
     to go to Koos and cite the law to Koos
      about the relationship between parents and children."



[Auditor:] What, if found out by Pa,
            would destroy you?

[Ma:]
"At that time,  LF's
  I wanted to take revenge on Pa
   for Pa not giving me all the attention
    I wanted to get from him  LF's
     and
   for not admiring me
    as I wanted to be admired,  LFBD
   for not making me number one in his life,
    and
   for not making me
    into an example for the children to look up to and listen to,
   for not backing me up."



[Auditor:] What, if found out by Pa,
            would destroy you?  LFBD LFBD LFBD

[Ma:]
"That after all these years
  with the children in the house,
   I finally got him  LFBD
    to do what I want him to do, and
    to see in me  LFBD
     his most important partner for communicating.  LFBD

"I always wanted to have Pa all for myself,  F's
  and
 I have wanted to prevent Pa from communicating,
  not only to Koos, but to others too.  LFBD

"I HAVE TRIED TO DOMINATE PA  LFBD
  INTO MAKING ME THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN HIS LIFE  LFBD
   WITH LITTLE OR NO INTEREST IN OTHERS."

 LFBD-F/Nind [= truth established]


                    'Ma Nolst Trenite'


                                Total session time: 1 hrs 33 min

                          Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
              at 700 US $ per hour, makes 1,085 US $ total cost.







Telepathic Auditing-session with Ma (my mother),
 on 26 April 1997, 10:55 GMT
 ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
 (An Auditor is someone who listens.)

reference:
   RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
   http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm



[Auditor:] Which other friendships of Pa
            have you destroyed, and how?

[Ma:]
"The friendship of Pa to Gijs:  LFBD
   I didn't let much friendship come up,  LF
    not much personal, intimate talking.


"Lide, as being the youngest and having been the last out of the house,
   I occupied as 'my child', and
   I bound her more onto myself -
    instead of helping her friendship with Pa develop.  LFBD


"Pa tried to have some influence on Aunt Mariet,  LFBD LFBD
  to involve her in family life, and
  in her helping Koos further (she once gave Koos the money for a car).  LFBD
 I told Pa:
  'You can't ask her to help Koos'."


[Auditor:] When?

[Ma:]
"In 1980,
  when Koos started with the Art project in the Castle.

"I told Pa:
  'Koos must do projects by which HE earns money'.  LFBD
  'He can't let others pay for it'."  LFBD



[Auditor:] Which other friendships of Pa
            have you destroyed, and how?

[Ma:]
"I always thought
  we had a very lively life together
   with many people around us.

"But I haven't made any friends,
  and Pa neither -
   although he had more contact to people
    through his work in his firm.  LFBD

"And now we are very much isolated,
  and everyone of the family goes his own way.  LF's

"We know of each other, and
  exchange news now and then, and greetings, and
  sometimes we see each other.
 But for the rest,
  each one of us leads his own separate life.  LFBDBD

"I have wanted it like that.  LFBD

"And now Pa and me are alone in the house.

"I withdraw into my household chores, and
  Pa sits in the livingroom reading
  or goes alone for a walk, and
   sometimes we go both together, and
   rarely we go further away.

"And in warm days we sit in the garden and read,
  sometimes Pa is painting and I do some weaving -
   that's the life we are leading now.  LFBD

"That's how I wanted Pa to be for me."

 F/Nind
                    'Ma Nolst Trenite'


                                 Total session time: 1 hr 20 min

                          Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
                at 700 US $ per hour, makes 933 US $ total cost.






Telepathic Auditing-session with Ma (my mother),
 on 26 April 1997, 12:50 GMT
 ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
 (An Auditor is someone who listens.)

reference:
   RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
   http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm



[Auditor:] What did Pa nearly find out about you?

[Ma:]
"I was very much not wanting, the past days,
  that Koos would write or phone us."  LF


[Auditor:] What did he do to make you think he knew?

[Ma:]
"He went upstairs where Koos' room was,
  to look for something, and
 coming back, he had an expression in his face
  which communicated to me:  'How empty the house is now!'"  LFBD



[Auditor:] What did Pa nearly find out about you?

[Ma:]
"That I wanted to hinder Pa from communicating  LFBD
  with Koos [by sending Koos away]   LFBD
   when I wanted to send Koos to a boarding school."  LF


[Auditor:] What did Pa do to make you think he knew?

[Ma:]
"At the end, Pa rejected that idea, that proposal I made."



[Auditor:] What did Pa nearly find out about you?

[Ma:]
"When Koos was communicating with Pa and they had their talks,
  I was letting them communicate,
   but
  I was sitting silently away from them
   or going out of the room,
    with a disagreement about them communicating."


[Auditor:] What did Pa do to make you think he knew?

[Ma:]
"He glanced at me, but he let me go,
  instead of inviting me to sit with them
   and listen or participate in their communication."  LFBD



[Auditor:] What did Pa nearly find out about you?  LFBD

[Ma:]
"That I didn't want Pa really
  to live WITH his family [= his children],
   that is,
  I wanted to PREVENT Pa from really enjoying his family."  LFBD


[Auditor:] What did he do to make you think he knew?

[Ma:]
"Pa agreed very UNwillingly
  to talk to Koos about what the law [Civil Code] provided for
   in the relationship of parents and children.  LFBD

"That's where I wanted Pa
   NOT to be a parent and
   NOT to be a friend to Koos."

 F/Nind
                    'Ma Nolst Trenite'


                                      Total session time: 49 min

                          Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
                at 700 US $ per hour, makes 572 US $ total cost.


(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
 LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
 reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
 LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
 "LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
     RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
     RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' 4 Sept 96
     RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


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References (available at the Library http://Art-Org.com):

  (about Koos' parents and family)

  RI-846i  'Recovering my father - Part III - Value of Telepathy' 28 Apr 97
  RI-840i  'Recovering my father - Part II' of 26 Apr 97
  RI-839i  'Recovering my father - Part I' of 26 Apr 97

  RI-841i  'My mother - regrettably, but true: a suppressive person' Apr 97

  RI-811i  'Telepathic talk with my brother' of 27 Mar 1997
  RI-767i  'My mother crediting me' of 21 Dec 1996

  RI-698i  'Treat a Psychotic as a Psychotic (on my mother)' of 18 Sept 96
  RI-697i  'Telepathic Auditing for my Father - On Friendships' 17 Sept 96

  RI-689i  'Auditing a psychotic telepathically' of 7 Sept 1996
  RI-688i  'Handling parents - a psychotic mother' of 7 Sept 1996


  (about Koos Nolst Trenite)

  RI-126Ri 'Koos Nolst Trenite - identity' of 29 Mar 1995
  RI-480i  'Koos Nolst Trenite - Life-story' of 14 Feb 1996
  RI-828i  'Koos Nolst Trenite personally visited' of 19 Apr 1997


  (about marriage and family and problems in marriage)

  RI-759i  'Understanding a Typical Marriage Problem' of 12 Dec 1996
  RI-543i  'Dictators' of 22 July 1994, issued 2 May 1996
  RI-631i  'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996

  RI-537i  'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
  RI-629i  'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996

  RI-734i  'Orienting Children' of 13 Nov 1996
  RI-781BPI'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 14 Jan 97

  RI-713i  'Handling Attacks Correctly - Space and Love' 18 Oct 1996
  RI-602i  'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996

  RI-785i  'On Not Remedying Disagreements - "Not Talking"' of 24 Jan 97
  RI-771i  'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997


  (about art and about religion)

  RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
  RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 1996
  RI-738Si 'Christianity - Love, and Guilt solved' shortened 22 Dec 96


  (about understanding and handling criminals and enemies)

  RI-058Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 950
  RI-487i  'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility' of 20 Feb 1996
  RI-535i  '"An Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" = INSANE' of 10 Apr 1996
  RI-646i  'FACING those who are mean or dishonest' of 31 July 1996


  (about RI-Bulletins)

  RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
  RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
               Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

    at the Library of Koos' writings on
         http://Art-Org.com

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         ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI



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