4 September 1997
                                        issued and edited 16 Nov 1997


RI-965i 'Jutta and L. Ron Hubbard: "Dominate and Be Dominated!" - VITAL DATA'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-965i for Internet

(Also appearing in the RDS-series,
  the "Resolving Domination Series".)




"L. Ron Hubbard and I, Jutta,
  we would [and do] agree on destroying the life of others, and
  I would not consider that he is dominating me,
    because I want to also destroy life
     in the same way as he wants to destroy life."


                        'Jutta'




Solo-Confessional(*) of Jutta Nolst Trenite,
 on 3 September 1997, 23:16 GMT,
 ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


[Solo-Auditor(**):] How would
                      "I now WANT to be a 'murderer'
                        (someone who decides to destroy life
                          instead of enhancing it)"
                     help you to escape domination?

[Jutta:]
"I would not escape the domination
  by L. Ron Hubbard or
  by any other Suppressive Person (see Footnote),
   if I destroy Koos,
 [but it seems that I then DO escape their domination].  LFBD(***)

"Koos is my ally [helps me] against my own evil."






[Solo-Auditor:] How would
                  "I now WANT to be a 'murderer'
                    (someone who decides to destroy life
                      instead of enhancing it)"
                 help you to dominate others?

[Jutta:]
"It would help me to dominate L. Ron Hubbard
  into continuing to be evil and
  into continuing to dominate everyone.



"If I WANT to be a 'murderer' (someone who decides to destroy life)
  then I do not FEEL the domination,
    because I would be as evil and as dominating
     as L. Ron Hubbard.  LFBDBD

"I would not perceive his domination as [mental] pressure -
  [because] I would agree with it,
  I would do the same,  LFBD
   (the same evil,
    the same destruction of life instead of enhancing it).
  (see also RI-10i 'Confronting a Suppressive' of 12 Oct 1994
             http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-010i.htm)




"L. Ron Hubbard and I, Jutta,
  we would [and do] agree on destroying the life of others, and
  I would not consider that he is dominating me,
    because I want to also destroy life
     in the same way as he wants to destroy life.

     [Note by Koos:
        Destroying the liking people have for each other,
        destroying the liking people have for leading their own lives,
        destroying people's own viewpoint on (and thereby their liking for)
         other people and for life's activities.

        Destroying the natural liking for life and for people
         in others and in self,
          which is also called 'hate',
            is making others hate others.

        This is a speciality of
          Hubbard Scientology Organizations and its Sea Org, etc.,
           and of
          Jutta (and of L. Ron Hubbard),
            who with great - but hidden - mental force
             secretly hates herself and others:

                 They are "great" and
                  others "must do and think
                   what they want them to do and think".
                  Others, and they themselves,
                    must compulsively think (and
                    defend it with mental lightning bolts against others),
                      that - NO MATTER HOW DESTRUCTIVE THEY ARE -
                       they are "great".

        This is how Jutta by herself occasionally overwhelmed another
         into buying a painting,
          with her "I am great" enforcement and domination.]



[Jutta:]
"We would agree with each other.




"Nevertheless,
  L. Ron Hubbard would not escape my domination, and
  I would not escape his domination,
    we would mutually do each other in [destroy each other].  LFBD


"He would acknowledge ME
   how 'good' I am and
   how 'right' I am
    to destroy life [and to destroy Koos], and
 I would acknowledge HIM
   how 'good' he is and
   how 'right' he is
    to destroy life [and to destroy Koos].
 (see RI-789i 'PROPAGANDA of L. Ron Hubbard almost exposed July 1994'
       http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-789i.htm)


     [Note by Koos:
        They ARE actually doing that to each other
         with enormous mental force - called Black Magic -
           encouraging each other
            to be evil to others and to themselves,
           encouraging each other
            to hate Koos or
            to make others hate Koos,
              Koos who has the "audacity" to not accept
               their hateful "greatness" and
               their "supremacy by mental force" (Black Magic force) of
                 dominating all others into one viewpoint:
                    Their viewpoint of hating life -
                     "Dominate and Be Dominated".]





[Jutta:]
"We would dominate each other
  into continuing to be evil
   [destroying the viewpoints others have].

"We would acknowledge each other that
   'The ONLY way to survive
     is
       dominating others,
     is
       making others small,
     is
       refusing A-R-C [true Affinity, true Reality, true Communication],
     is
       forcing another, by whatever means, into submission,  LFBD
     is
       making another give up his viewpoint and adopt our viewpoint.'

     [Note by Koos:
        This IS the being L. Ron Hubbard, NOW (and since 1965).
        This IS the being Jutta, NOW (and since 1788).






[Jutta:]
"L. Ron Hubbard wants
  that everyone adopts HIS viewpoint
 and I want
  that everyone adopts MY viewpoint!

"That's supposed to help our survival!

"'I overwhelm you with my viewpoint, and
  I know you will try to overwhelm me with your viewpoint,  LFBD
   and
  at the end there will be only one viewpoint left.'

     [Note by Koos:
        On whatever issue is at hand,
         one is then either dominated,
         or one is dominating.

         You either have "won" over me,
           and I am subdued
           and do or think what you want (on the subject, or in life),
         or I have "won" over you,
           and you do or think what I want (on the subject, or in life).]





"L. Ron Hubbard says (and writes):
      'Life is a contest in overwhelmings!'

   (see RI-732i 'The Evil in L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology Philosophy'
         http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-732i.htm)





"Koos says (and writes):
      'Life is
        creating A-R-C [true Affinity, Reality, Communication],  LFBDBD
         and is
        making it possible for someone to be there.'

  (see RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
        http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-629i.htm)




"I like Koos' statement much better."  LFBDBD






[Solo-Auditor:] How would
                  "I now WANT to be a 'murderer'
                    (someone who decides to destroy life
                      instead of enhancing it)"
                 help you to escape domination?

[Jutta:]
"If I 'manage' to make everyone small and apathetic,
   I have dominated them - and then
   I escape their domination!



"What a view of life!
  There is only 'Domination or Being Dominated'.




"How about Duplication [looking], understanding, and friendship?

"There can be millions, billions of viewpoints and
  they all can exist side by side,
   and
  a good spirit [anyone, any person is a spirit, a spiritual being, you]
   lets them exist and
   creates games for them."  LFBD





[Solo-Auditor:] How would
                  "I now WANT to be a 'murderer'
                    (someone who decides to destroy life
                      instead of enhancing it)"
                 help you to escape domination?

[Jutta:]
"It would help me to escape domination -
   I would pretend to myself
    that ANOTHER HAS NO EVIL INTENTIONS ON ME
     IF I DO AS IF
      I DO NOT PERCEIVE THE EVIL INTENTIONS OF ANOTHER.


"I actually dominate him
  by that [by doing as if I don't perceive it]
   into continuing to be evil,
     [by finding it OK, by not stopping it,
      by doing as if he is NOT caving others in],
   and
 I do AS IF that has no effect on me!

"Very tricky,
  and it is no A-R-C [no Affinity, no Reality, no Communication],  LFBD
  and it is no care.  LFBD
   (see also RI-799i 'Napoleon Bonaparte's wife Marie Louise of Austria'
              http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-799i.htm)




"All this does NOT help me either
  to escape from dominating MYSELF into MYSELF being evil.  LFBDBD



"And my refusing to look at the evil intentions of others
  will also not help me to escape domination.


"But when I
  'keep my eyes open' and when I
  disagree with evil intentions,
    then I can help Koos and others."  LFBDBD

 LFBD-F/Nind [a truth established]


                    'Jutta Nolst Trenite'


                                      Total session time: 1 hr 13 min



        I think you already got the idea
         that this person, Jutta,
          is not capable of being a friend
          and certainly not of being a wife or a mother.

        She, as well as some other people do,
         uses the sexual act as a secret tool
          to make herself not looked at and
          to interiorize another into not looking.
        Part of the sexual act for her is her insane 'pleasure' of
          making another unaware, and of
          making herself unaware
           of her own intentions to destroy life.

        It is the misuse of love and admiration,
         perverting it
          towards the destruction of life,
          towards the destruction of awareness, and
         to PREVENT real joy and to PREVENT real communication.





Motto of the 'Resolving Domination Series' (RDS):

        "Koos is giving much more life than all other beings I know.
         I want to be in communication with Koos."

                  (Jutta's own viewpoint in 1977 for joining Koos)





Footnote:
  See the 'Understanding Suppression Series', at
   http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/usp.htm


* (see RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 1996
         http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-541i.htm
       and following parts II, III, IV)

** [Definition of 'Solo-Auditor':
      Someone who writes down his own confession
       in response to given questions,
         with the purpose to release emotional charge and aberrations.]


*** (The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long
     Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the
     E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F, LF, LFBD), and release of
     charge completed (F/N).
     "LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

    (see RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 1996
         RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
         RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 1996
          http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-687i.htm)



Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite



Editors:  Freya Nolst Trenite and Blair Wiley
Final Editor:  Koos Nolst Trenite
Supervision and publication requested by Jutta Nolst Trenite
Actions and Publication ordered by Ambassador for Mankind



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References (available also at the Library "http://Art-Org.com/"):

- About Jutta

  RI-964i  'Jutta: With Koos, care for people - Without Koos, dominating...'
  RI-960i  'Jutta: Why I destroyed Koos' Castle Project (1980) - Domination'
  RI-961i  'Jutta: "I am praised for helping Mankind, but now destroying it"'

  RI-958i  'Jutta: Running away is being dominated completely' of 23 Aug 97
  RI-956i  'Jutta: Validating Evil by NOT communicating about it' of 25 Aug 97
  RI-955i  'Jutta: DENYING COMMUNICATION about sorrow, fear, pain or evil'

  RI-959i  'Jutta: "I just don't WANT to handle L. Ron Hubbard's insanity"'
  RI-954i  'Jutta: "Be with Koos - or let all be dominated by Scientology"'
  RI-947i  'Jutta's Determination to Punish L. Ron Hubbard FOREVER' 18 Aug 97

  RI-943i  'Jutta: "Don't face evil - Destroy Koos instead" - I' of 17 Aug 97
  RI-944i  'Jutta: "Don't face evil - Destroy Koos instead" - II' of 17 Aug 97
  RI-945i  'Jutta: "Don't face evil - Destroy Koos instead" - III' 17 Aug 97
  RI-946i  'Jutta: "Don't face evil - Destroy Koos instead" - IV' of 18 Aug 97

  RI-818i  'Diana Ross: Facing Jutta, the painter' of 2 Apr 1997
  RI-521i  'On Jutta's Refusal to Help Mankind effectively' 20 Mar 1996

  RI-789i  'PROPAGANDA of L. Ron Hubbard almost exposed July 1994' 6 Feb 97
  RI-941i  'Benjamin Franklin's fatal decision of 1788' of 24 Oct 1997


- About L. Ron Hubbard's 'Black Magic'

  RI-634i  'The Operating Satan L. Ron Hubbard' of 12 July 1996
  RI-645i  'The Operating Satan L. Ron Hubbard, more evidence' 1 Aug 96

  RI-867i  'How L. Ron Hubbard Destroys your Friendship with Koos' 19 May 97
  RI-868i  'L. Ron Hubbard's Black Magic against Koos Nolst Trenite' 19 May 97

  RI-951i  'Black Magic Spells from L. Ron Hubbard' of 3 Nov 1997
  RI-907i  'A glimpse of spiritual warfare' of 16 July 1997

  RI-547i  'What the being L. Ron Hubbard is NOW doing to Scnists' 4 May 96
  RI-529i-A'What the being LRH is doing NOW - Addition' 22 Apr 96
  RI-529i  'URGENT - What the being LRH is doing NOW' of 6 Apr 96

  RI-488i  'Very able people at serious risk in Scn' 23 Feb 1996

  RI-950i  'The Domination Game - Hidden Actions by L. Ron Hubbard' 23 Sept 97
  RI-570i  'How L. Ron Hubbard NOW tries to destroy Civilization' 22 May 96

  RI-633i  'The Truth behind L. Ron Hubbard - VITAL VITAL DATA' 16 July 96
  RI-632i  'The being L. Ron Hubbard, Current State' of 14 July 96
  RI-747i  'Black Scientology to cover up truth' of 26 Nov 1996


- About RI-Bulletins

  RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
  RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
               Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996


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