13 December 1997


RI-980i  'Character of any heavy Suppressive Person - Jutta seen by Freya'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-980i for Internet




For your own sanity, and for the sanity of your children,
 you better know about
  what these characters do
   to destroy decency, happiness and abilities:

     From one second to the other,
      this person made my daughter CHANGE
        from being a bright, interested, outgoing,
          very intelligent and able girl,
        into being an ugly, stupid, not-knowing-anymore,
          mean, destructive child
           (who even started and continued to make her body look ugly).


Below is one of some actions done for Freya
 to recover her from times
  when Jutta forcefully
   drove Freya, her own daughter, heavily insane.




Significant excerpt:

    'For the purpose of "BEING 'BETTER' THAN OTHERS",
       they have to MAKE it "attractive" for others
        to be as evil as possible.
       And they have to very cleverly PREVENT others
        from showing and following their active or
         remaining or dormant good intentions.

       And the way they do it - unnoticed by you -
        is described below.'

                        'Ambassador for Mankind'





Koos to Freya:

        'Find another major time
          that you found it all right
           that Jutta was covering up her evil
            by her pretending to herself and others
             that she was fine.'




Freya, on 13 December 1996, 10:40 GMT:


I still wanted to write down exactly
 the time in (1986)
  where I saw Jutta coming out of Session [therapy] into the living room,
   and I SAW her being evil [ugly, destructive, mean, lying],
    WHILE she was pretending that she is "great."


     [Note by Koos:
        Freya observed, saw, perceived,
         that Jutta was
          pretending to be "great",
          pretending to be in "excellent spiritual condition",
          pretending to "be very much herself",
        and Freya observed
         that, while Jutta put out (radiated, showed) this pretense,
          Jutta was ACTUALLY being
           very mean, very ugly and
           intending to destroy others,
           having no care for others.]



I saw Jutta had an 'air', a pretense around her,
 of
  that she is "great", "above others", "above Koos",
  that "Koos is nothing",
  that "she is beautiful",
  that "she is much better than others, than Koos",
  that "she can see evil intentions much better than Koos" and
  that she therefore is "great."


But she had, with it,
 a total refusal to do anything about the evil she sees,
  except to
   destroy the person who has the evil intentions,
   destroy also his good intentions,
     and, with that, actually making him more evil.


Jutta had an output of
 "why do anything about
    (for example the [evil people in the Scientology] Guardian Office
      [who, with L. Ron Hubbard, had destroyed
        Koos since 1974 and Koos' Art activities since 1976])
  why do anything about people who are being evil,
   other than destroy them,
   other than simply having nothing to do with them,
    just let them destroy each other,
     why try to help and change them, they are evil."


(See also my notes of 7 December 1997, at 16:30 to about 17:30 GMT,
  which describe somewhat Jutta's so-called "greatness" because of
    her being able to see some evil intentions in another
     and DESTROYING THE PERSON FOR HAVING THEM. (see Footnote))


Jutta had an output of
 "KOOS IS EVIL FOR WANTING TO
   DO SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT EVIL PEOPLE
    THAN TO DESTROY THEM."


There is also in it:

 Jutta wanting
  that Koos
   ALSO does NOT do anything about
       [does not hinder, prevent, try to bring under control]
    the evil [mean, destructive, treacherous] intentions
     which SHE HERSELF has
      that Koos might observe in her.

 Jutta wanting
  that Koos just does
    as if "her intentions to destroy life don't have to be looked at",
    as if these "don't have to be handled",
    as if these "CAN'T be handled",
     and therefore
      "you don't even have to TRY to do something about these"
         [do something to keep intentions to destroy life under control,
           for instance by
            recognizing these intentions,
            trying to prevent their execution,
            getting out of the grip of their compulsion as soon as possible,
            figuring out ways to safeguard oneself and others
             against the execution of destructive intentions,
            asking the help of others
             to notify oneself and
             to keep one from executing destructive intentions
              when one's friends notice them,
               etc. etc.  (Note by Koos)],
     because
      "doing something about evil, destructive intentions
        'will only make them worse',
        'will only make the person
          upset, crazy, Reactive [stimulus-response]',"
      "it is much better NOT to do anything about,
         NOT to say anything about evil intentions."


     [Note by Koos:
        The true and only reasons
         for such an attitude are
           'Cowardice' and
           'Refusal to help people' and
           'No love for people.']




I get, with it, Jutta putting out:
 "If the [destructive, malicious] person
   assists me,
   admires me,
    then it is much better
     NOT to say anything to him about HIS evil intentions."
 And
 "if the person DOESN'T want to assist me
    (does not support me
      regardless of
       whether he is refusing to assist me
        in me doing something non-survival
          [like my running away,
           or my pretending to be "greater than others"]
        or in me doing something survival),
  if he DOESN'T like me,
  if he DOESN'T admire me,
    then 'the "evil" intentions of this person will destroy me',
     so 'I have to handle his intentions
          [of not liking me, of not admiring me]:
           I have to destroy the person before he destroys me'."


     [Note by Koos:
        So that's why Jutta wants to destroy people -
         especially wants to destroy decent people
          who do not like or admire
           her pretense, her lies, her destruction of life,
           her destruction of people:
             She wants to destroy people
              "so that they don't 'destroy' her."

        For some reason
         she and others can't get the idea
          that when you destroy, invalidate, suffocate
           someone's good intentions with the bad ones,
             you create people that want to destroy you even more.

        Criminals don't get that simply logic.

        They don't get it
         because
          they do NOT WANT TO CREATE LIFE,
         and because actually - no matter what they say or think -
          THEY  DO  WANT TO BE DESTROYED.

        That "they don't want to be destroyed"
         is a pretense. It is not true.

        If they would NOT want to be destroyed,
         they would support their true friends and
          not run away from them,
          not betray them, they would
          not smash their true friends.

        I hope you can see that.


        THAT's why Jutta wanted to destroy us so vehemently:
         Because we don't like and admire
          her pretense and her lies and
          her treachery and her destruction of life and
          her continuous intention to destroy herself,
           and
         we ESPECIALLY do NOT like that,
          while she forcefully keeps up
           an image of
            "how great she is", and
             how much "greater than us" she is,
          and that we should accept and like and admire
           her false image of herself.

        Exactly the same intentions, by the way,
         are executed by L. Ron Hubbard:
          to destroy decent and responsible people
           who have the "evil" and "destructive" intention
            not to admire and not to like his criminality,
            to expose
             his pretense of wanting to help people and Mankind
              in the name of "Freedom",
               but his actually and only wanting
                to use his inventions and discoveries
                  in order to dominate Mankind,
                   "so that Mankind does not destroy his pretense!"]





There was, with it,
 Jutta "making Koos small."

 Jutta with great (= big) spiritual force
  putting out, mainly to herself,
   that
    "Koos is
     - small, evil,
     - can't see things,
     - treats people wrongly,
        especially treats HER wrongly",
   that
    "he doesn't see how she really is",
   that
    Koos
     SHOULD not see and
     should not WANT to do anything
      about her evil, life-destroying, intentions,
   that
    "he just should be glad
      that she is with him, and 'supports' him,
       where [Jutta
         worked very hard and
         made very sure
          to destroy any friendships and any activity of Koos
           so as to dominate Koos
            into seeing only Jutta
             as a 'remaining, loyal friend'
              (even though she ran away, from herself,
                for weeks or months and could not be found,
                 every year or so) and
           to dominate Koos
            into giving all his life-force,
             all his attention and work, only to Jutta,
          so that she can say
           that she did it all alone without Koos' help and
           that  (Note by Koos)]
            'everybody is leaving him and not supporting him',
              and that SHE therefore "is great"'
               and THEREFORE she shouldn't be looked at."


     [Note by Koos:
        I hope you still get
         how this "proves" how "great" she is and
         how this grants her the "right"
          to remain as insane and destructive as she pleases,
           because I don't quite get it anymore.]




   That Koos should not look at her
     because
        "if you (= Koos) DO look at her evil intentions
          she will BECOME evil at you
           for seeing her evil intentions",
        "if you do AS IF she is fine and good
        [if you accept her pretense],
          she will be fine towards you
           and will not attack you",
       because
        "if you say AND THINK that she IS fine and good,
          then that is 'you seeing and acting upon her native decency',
           but
         if you see and talk about her evil intentions,
          then 'you are not really seeing her',
          then 'you are destroying her native decency
            by trying to handle her evil intentions,
            by seeing and pointing out her evil intentions',"
       because
        "only when you
           do as if she doesn't have evil intentions,
           do as if she is fine,
         only then
          'can she keep her evil intentions under control',
        but
         if you talk about them,
          THEN she 'cannot keep them under control'
           and 'will try to destroy you'
           and will try to justify her evil intentions"
       because
        "when you do talk about her evil intentions,
         when you do all the above to her,
           THEN YOU ARE BEING EVIL TO HER,
            because by that you are FORCING her to be evil."


     [Note by Koos:
        This is the old story of the Medusa:
         The Medusa is so ugly, so evil,
          that she will turn you to stone
           if you really look at her, if you are exposed to her look.
         So they solved it
          by holding a mirror in front of the Medusa.
           And that is how we also will solve this situation.

        But let's not advance too far beyond
         what actually is happening:

        A strong criminal personality, like Jutta,
          and any other heavy Suppressive Person,
         dominates you very intelligently and forcefully
          into letting her be
           as evil, as destructive, as mean, as vicious, as lying
            AS SHE PLEASES.
         She acts, with great force, according to the following ideas:
           "If you stop me from being evil,
             I will forcefully destroy you!"
           "If you don't stop me from being evil,
             I will destroy you and your life and activity and friends
              - less loudly, and so that you
                 less easily notice it,
                  maybe even find it pleasant not to notice it,
               but I will destroy you -
                much more effectively and much faster!"]



Jutta was further putting out:

  "Evil people who don't support you,
    you should just
     not have anything to do with them, and
    you should just
     destroy these people,
     make them wrong,
     NOT see their good intentions,
     JUST DO AWAY WITH THEM."

  And
  "if you see evil intentions
    in the people who DO support you,
     you should NOT talk about these evil intentions,
      because
        then these people
         will BECOME evil to you
         and will not support you anymore."


     [Note by Koos:
        Precisely the opposite is true and
        precisely the opposite DOES work -
         IF you have the intention to care for people, that is,
          (which Jutta does NOT have).
        (see also the same attitude in Leopold Mozart, in
           RI-855i 'Re my father - Part IX - Leopold Mozart's attitude'
           http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-855i.htm)]



What I, Freya, was doing:

I was SEEING
 Jutta's output of "rightness", of "greatness",
 Jutta's 'no care' for people with it,
 JUTTA's PRETENSE OF
   that it is RIGHT what she is doing,
   that she is BETTER than others,
   that
    her 'no care',
    her 'destroying people whose evil intentions she observes',
    her "feel great",
    her pretense of being "great", and
    her being in "Serenity"
     is
      "her being better than others":
        "Better" than those
          those WHO ARE BEING DECENT,
          those who are getting upset about heavy evil intentions of people,
           but who try to handle such people,
      and
     is Jutta's being "better" than
          those WHO ARE CARING for people.


And me then [deciding to be insane myself and myself acting insanely,
 by] DECIDING:

   "I don't LIKE [to experience] the force of
     Jutta's evil intentions of
      her not caring for people,
      her destroying people,
      her making them small."

   "I much rather LIKE [to have a 'great' mother,
     than an evil, mean, destructive mother,
      so I LIKE]
       her pretending to be 'BETTER THAN OTHERS' and
       her pretending to be 'GREAT'."


And me then [deciding to be insane myself and to myself acting insanely,
 by] DOING AS IF I DIDN'T SEE
  Jutta's 'no care'
   and
 DOING AS IF I DIDN'T SEE
  the force of Jutta's evil
    of her destroying
     people whom she "doesn't like", and her destroying
     people who have evil intentions that she sees, or her destroying
     people who almost find out about Jutta's own evil intentions.



And then MY ACTUALLY BELIEVING HER PRETENSE
 of "her being great and being better."



And then me ALSO
 PUTTING OUT [radiating, amplifying, broadcasting] her pretense,
 putting it out to Koos,
  so that Koos would not make me look
    at how Jutta actually is, would not make me look
    at the evil intentions of Jutta
     that Koos did see and was trying to handle
      with Auditing [therapy].

And because of me now ALSO putting out [radiating]
 her pretense of "being great",
   I myself was then ALSO putting out,
   I was taking over from Jutta,
     a 'no care' for people,
   I was ALSO taking over from Jutta
     her 'looking down on Koos',
     her 'attacking Koos for helping her',
     her 'saying secretly that "Koos is evil and insane".'
   I, myself, was starting ALSO to put this out,
   I, myself, was starting ALSO to have no care for people.




Koos to Freya:
        'What could you have done instead of
          "finding it all right that Jutta is evil"?'


What I, Freya, could have done there,
 if I would have been responsible and being myself:

I could have asked Jutta
  what the result of the [therapy-]Session was.
I could have asked her
  how Koos is doing.

And then I could have said to Koos
 that Jutta is not talking with much care,
 that it seems there is something mean in her way of talking,
  and
 I could have asked Koos what he thinks of that.

And maybe Koos could have told me
 "that this was just one [therapy-]Session
   and it does NOT mean that Jutta
    doesn't have any evil intentions anymore."

And Koos would have asked Jutta
 whether she is pretending that "she has no evil intentions"
  and Koos would have seen her pretense
   and he would have indicated that to her and to me, etc.


Freya Nolst Trenite




Published by Freya Nolst Trenite

on request of


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite



Footnote:

    Notes of 7 December 1997:

        Freya:

           Jutta wanting to be considered "great"
            for seeing some hidden, destructive intentions in a person
             and
            for wanting to destroy that person for having these.

           And, to most people, that LOOKS
            as if she is "making the person more decent".
             That's why she is "great".

           She DESTROYS the good intentions of
            these people whose hidden evil intentions she observes
              in order that others do NOT see that
               Jutta herself ALSO has those hidden, destructive intentions,
                that she sees in others.

           Probably that's why she is so good in the first place at
            seeing these intention in others:
              BECAUSE she has them herself.


        Koos (after Freya described it):

          'When Jutta has gotten others to accept
            that she is "great",
             then she has "won" and has "secured her survival",
              but she is still being extremely evil.'


        Freya:

           Jutta ALSO wants that those people
            in whom she detects hidden evil intentions
             do not see about her
              that SHE has the SAME evil intentions as they have.
           Jutta wants to be considered "better" than they are.
           Jutta wants to pretend
             - and her pretense accepted and confirmed -
            that she is "better" than they are.


        Koos:

           Jutta has a very destructive game going,
            with people who are similar in character:
             L. Ron Hubbard and Richard Reiss
               (and other criminally predisposed individuals
                 who belong to L. Ron Hubbard's very arrogant,
                  life-despising "Serenity"-group).

           All three are convinced,
            and try to force the other two to accept,
              that each one is
               "better than the other two",
               "much better than the other two",
             because they see through the
              evil intentions and pretense and treachery
               of the other two.

           For that purpose of "BEING 'BETTER' THAN OTHERS",
            they have to KEEP the others as evil as possible, you see!
            And they have to PREVENT the others
             from showing and following their
              remaining or dormant good intentions, you see!

           And they have to keep themselves
            insane and criminal and 'wanting to destroy life'
             IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WANTING TO DESTROY THE OTHERS.
           All that - destroying their own life and the lives of others -
            "to be better than others."

           That's how these very heavy Suppressive Persons,
            Jutta, Richard Reiss, L. Ron Hubbard,
              KEEP EACH OTHER INSANE.

           You see this also on the Internet newsgroups, and elsewhere,
            about other heavy criminals:
              They try to PREVENT each other
               from recognizing and from stopping their
                destructive intentions -
              they KEEP each other insane
              and intentionally confuse each other,
               BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP OTHERS INSANE AND CRIMINAL
                - by not pointing evil out,
                   but representing destructive intentions
                    as "good" or "rightful",
                  by not stopping others -
               SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL OR CLAIM
                THAT THEY THEMSELVES
                 ARE "BETTER" THAN THE OTHER CRIMINALS,
                 "BETTER" EVEN THAN DECENT PEOPLE.


        (End of notes of 7 December 1997)




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References (available also at the Library "http://Art-Org.com/"):

- About Sanity and Care and Responsibility

  RI-449i  'A Rule For Freedom' of 14 Jan 1996
  RI-714i  'State of Sanity, Definition of' of 24 Oct 1996
  RI-537i  'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996

  RI-929i  'Simple Detection: "Sane or Insane?"' of 11 Sept 1997
  RI-962i  'The Master Path to Life - Platonism understood' of 1 Nov 97

  RI-738Si 'Christianity - Love, and Guilt solved' of 22 Dec 1996

  RI-781BPI 'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 16 Jan 1997
  RI-631i  'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996

  RI-629i  'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
  RI-602i  'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996


- About Jutta

  RI-972i  'Jutta: "How I want to destroy LIFE, since 1788"' of 4 Sept 1997
  RI-972Si 'Hidden but Executed Intentions of the paintress Jutta' 23 Nov 97
  RI-976Di 'Psychose - am Beispiel der Malerin Jutta - ins Auge gefasst'

  RI-969i  'Jutta: "See me Great, or I kill you" - The main evil' 3 Sept 97
  RI-967i  'Jutta: "Communicating with Koos is knowing myself"' of 26 Aug 97
  RI-966i  'Jutta: "Being Unaware is NOT 'Keeping my Viewpoint Clean'"'
  RI-964i  'Jutta: With Koos, care for people - Without Koos, dominating...'

  RI-961i  'Jutta: "I am praised for helping Mankind, but now destroying it"'
  RI-960i  'Jutta: Why I destroyed Koos' Castle Project (1980) - Domination'
  RI-959i  'Jutta: "I just don't WANT to handle L. Ron Hubbard's insanity"'


- About facing evil

  RI-979i  'Deserting Their Own Hero - Why (Jutta, Michael Jackson, etc.) Do'
  RI-978i  'The Wall of Shame - Remedy of Hell, Jutta, Socrates, Black Magic'

  RI-974i  'Truth about "Not putting attention on evil of others"' 27 Nov 97
  RI-908i  'The Ostrich-factor - on facing evil or criminality' 16 July 97

  RI-058Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
  RI-487i  'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility' of 20 Feb 1996
  RI-535i  '"An Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" = INSANE' 10 Apr 96

  The 'Understanding Suppression Series'
   at http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/usp.htm

  RI-024i  'Definition of "Potential Trouble Source" - IMPORTANT' 19 Nov 94
  RI-010i  'Confronting a Suppressive' of 12 Oct 1994
  RI-444i  'The Practice of "SP-declares"' of 5 Jan 1996


- About RI-Bulletins

  RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
  RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
               Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996


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