8 January 1998


RI-993i  'The Joy and Beauty of Destroying Self and Others - Understood'


from Ambassador for Mankind


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"IN that condition, however,
  Jutta uses
    any tricks and all her intelligence and
    also the memory of achievements she had
      while OUT of that condition,
   in order to with it enforce on people
    that she still would be a
     decent, responsible, caring person,
  even though she
   is now IN that condition
    and
   is now a devil in disguise,
    who does nothing else but secretly
     destroying decency,
     hating life and
     despising and hating people and herself, and
     hating with most vehemence and
      vast salvos of precisely placed spiritual attacks,
       those who do genuinely care for others or for her."


                        'Ambassador for Mankind'




Session(*) on 6 January 1998, 19:41 GMT,
 about Jutta Nolst Trenite.

[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor(*):]
"That Jutta considers that
  it 'makes me (Koos) stronger in facing her (Jutta's) evil'."

 (see RI-15i 'Recent Sessions with LRH on Miscavige' of 26 Oct 1994
       http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-015i.htm)



[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor:]
"That Jutta considers that
  THEN you, Koos, see
   that you are NOT harmed by being totally destroyed,
     but that you THEN
      can 'enjoy yourself in life' - as she does, if left alone -
       WITHOUT having to face and oppose
        suppression and Suppressive Persons(**)."



[Koos:] So she is doing me a favor by her destroying me,
         so that I also can become
          "invulnerable" and
          "enjoy myself without facing and opposing suppression."

        She has decided, again and again, to be like that,
         and she wants me to experience the same "joy".

        And she also tried to do that
         in the Watermill (1984) to me
          after she went into Hubbard's "Serenity"
           by reading Hubbard's book 'Hymn of Asia'
            in order to STOP saying "No" to Napoleon -
              which courage I just had restored to her
               with yearlong work
                resulting in her being again
                 a causative, ethical person,
                  but hiding it from me, and being so only for half an hour,
                   as she wants to compulsively hide
                    that she also CAN be decent and courageous and
                   as she wants to rather again, as soon as possible,
                    destroy all her courage, and rather
                     be "invulnerable" to the evil of a Napoleon Bonaparte.



        The Motto being:

          "Just let everything be taken away from you,
            destroy
             all your native decency and
             all your desire to care for others, and
            you still make yourself feel 'proud and great and happy',
           and THEN
            anybody can do anything to you,
              and as a bonus
            you can be the greatest 'friends' with anybody,
             even with the most vicious criminal
              who just raped and murdered your kids,
            because
             you don't mind how evil he is to you
              or whether he destroys
               all your life and decency and care for others:

                    He 'can't do that'
                     because
                      you have already destroyed
                       those things and qualities yourself -
                      or ASKED the help of others
                       to show you and make you experience
                        how 'pleasant' it is to have all of you destroyed -
                         while still being 'proud and happy',
                     and so you are 'invulnerable'
                      - 'nobody can do anything to you'."

          "Now let me help you"
             - Jutta says, for instance in 1984
                in the Watermill where we just got a beautiful house -
           "to also experience that 'joy and beauty'
             of being 'proud and happy and invulnerable':
               Let me destroy
                your possessions and activities and
                your goals and aliveness and joy of beauty, and
                your native decency and
                your desire to care for others,
                 and
               you be friends even with the most ugly and evil persons and
               you don't look at their intentions at all,
                 but just receive them as if they are your best friends."


        Jutta tries to do this most of the time,
         her whole lifetime and earlier lifetimes.




[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor:]
"That Jutta considers that
  when she has destroyed you, Koos,
   THEN YOU DON'T DISAGREE with
     Jutta's own refusal to have any possessions, and with
     her own refusal to follow her own native decency, and with
     her own refusal to care for others including herself, and with
     her own desire to see and treat as 'friends' those
      who destroy those qualities in her, and
   then you don't disagree with
     her own desire to enforce this doctrine on others, and with
     her own desire to join together with and use Suppressive Persons
      in order to keep this doctrine enforced on herself
       when someone - like you, Koos - again gets her to be
        decent and
        caring for people and
        wanting to have possessions,
    and
  when she has destroyed you, Koos,
   THEN YOU DON'T DISAGREE WITH
     her own desire to call
       those who do so, who, like Koos, do get people to
        again be decent, caring and desiring to live,
      to call THOSE
       'evil' and
      to strongly resent their
       'SPOILING her enjoying herself in life' and
       'SPOILING her feeling of being invulnerable and proud and happy'."






[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor:]
"She is hiding that she wants to get
  admiration from you, Koos,
    FOR having done that to you - many times -
     with greater or lesser success:
  Admiration
    for how cleverly and forcefully
     she has tried to destroy you
      and tricked you into losing your aliveness."



[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor:]
"She hides that
  when she destroys you, Koos,
   then you will also experience and understand
    how 'beautiful and joyful' SHE finds it
      to be 'dead'
      and without possessions
      and without decency
      and without care for others, and
    how 'great' one can feel then."



     [Note by Koos:
        She was successfully enforcing this on me in the Watermill
         after I got her sane for half an hour,
          opposing Napoleon's evil for the first time since 200 years,
        and then
         she wanted to be, secretly, of course, insane again,
          and read Hubbard's book 'Hymn of Asia',
           [and after reading it]
         she claimed that she
          "got really sane,
           invulnerable,
           having achieved the mastery of the universe and of life"
             - but she could suddenly not Audit me,
             - she could not face an E-meter,
             - she could not face me,
             - she could not face that I had
                any problems or activities and goals.

        She was just beautifully, joyfully "dead",
         refusing to have
          any possessions,
          any decency or
          any care for others,
           but feeling 'really great and invulnerable'.

        I did not know what struck me -
         or whether anything struck me.

        She voiced that she also wanted me to have that state.

        I did NOT know what struck me.
         I had not the faintest idea, in 1984.

        But she proceeded to ruin
         every possession and
         any installation and
         living condition and
         spiritual condition,
          and
        she got me so forcefully and cleverly into apathy
         that I just was
           walking in the meadows and
           doing some paintings and
           occasionally repairing the exhaust of my car, and
           playing with the first home computer programming
              - 'she would certainly care to get things going again,
                  in her "super state" of
                    invulnerability, total cause over life'.

        I am sorry to tell you,
         but that's how it was,
          till the whole living space and set-up
           was completely destroyed by her
             - which was EXACTLY her HIDDEN intention
                to do to me and herself.

        When I would protest that "She makes it all ugly",
         she most violently accused ME
          of spoiling HER fun, of stopping her.

        We had a slightly different concept of fun
         - as you can imagine.

        But she was HIDING her concept -
         PRETENDING she wanted
          a beautiful place to live and
          activities and aliveness and truth and agreement.
           PRETENDED ONLY.

        INTENTIONALLY USING UP OUR LAST MONEY
         in order to spend it on
          INTENTIONALLY unsuccessful sales actions and sales travel.
          INTENTIONALLY selling paintings secretly far below cost.
          INTENTIONALLY getting the telephone cut off, etc.

        But all that cleverly hidden as "unavoidable":
         Still being "totally cause and invulnerable."]





[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor:]
"When you, Koos, are destroyed,
   THEN you have
    'no troubles and
     no worries and
     no L. Ron Hubbard's (psychotic, vicious liars) to think about'
      and
   THEN you can 'at last do what you actually want to do',
    like play music or paint
     and be admired regardless of
      what good or evil or ugliness
       you are doing to others and to yourself."





[Koos:] What is Jutta hiding about her considering it
         "joyful and beautiful" to destroy me?

[Auditor:]
"When you, Koos, are destroyed,
  then you 'also don't have to handle her (Jutta) anymore',
   you can just admire her.

"(Which is all she - in this state - wants out of life:
   Give and receive admiration -
    preferably from the body's life-field only (sexual)
     so that one does not even have to face the owner of the body,
      but gets admiration-energy
       directly from the body and from other bodies.)"





[Koos:] WHAT IS TOO UGLY TO LOOK AT
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"That it is not at all true
  that you will, like that, enjoy yourself in life!
    ACTUALLY - in that state -
     you will hate life, will hate yourself, will hate others!"





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"That she ENFORCES that attitude on others
  WITH GREAT SPIRITUAL FORCE
   to make it seem to others
    as really being 'beautiful and joyful' what she does.



"That she, WITH GREAT SPIRITUAL FORCE,
  HIDES
   the extreme ugliness and
   extreme hate of herself and of others and
   the tremendous amount of lies that she tells
    about herself and others,
    about what they actually are and do and achieve in life and
    about what actual good intentions others have for others in life,
     and
  her HIDING that she executes
   only the intention to destroy life,
     and
  her HIDING that she hates anybody
   who does create life and
   who is decent and
   who does care for others,
     and
  her HIDING that she
   actually refuses to care for anybody and that she
   only shows, radiates and enforces on others
    her 'beauty and joy' of experiencing and 'living' this condition
     of complete irresponsibility and very joyful insanity.

  (see RI-972Si 'Hidden but Executed Intentions of the paintress Jutta'
        http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-972si.htm)


"She is HIDING
  all the hate for herself and for others and
  all the lies and meanness that she puts on others and
  all the lies that she tells others and herself
   about her own achievements and conditions, etc.

"She does not show,
   but also HIDES, with great spiritual force,
    exerted on herself and on others,
  that that - the hate, lies and viciousness -
   is part of the condition, this state, and
  that that is the only way
   the condition can be achieved and maintained!





"In this way, entirely by spiritual enforcement,
  she makes many people believe
   that she is 'beautiful and kind and strong and admirable',
     instead of what she really is:

       An extreme devil
        in a spiritual criminal disguise,
          when she is in this condition.
            (In which she is 350 days a year.
              And that since four lifetimes.)"



[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"That she says 'it is "good and beautiful" to destroy others'
  ONLY in order to continue destroying others
   unhindered by those who don't look through the
     'beauty' and 'goodness' and 'responsibility' of
       secretly destroying others' lives.

"And the condition stems ONLY from
  her having been, and being,
   too big a coward to maintain or put back her own decency,
   too big a coward to care for others and
   too big a coward to protect her own possessions and
   too big a coward to stand up for her own goals
    and for what she likes and dislikes."





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"With her PRETENDED 'joy and beauty',
  she is destroying her ACTUAL joy and beauty and that of others.

"And her life mainly, if not only,
  consists of efforts
   to try and dominate people
    into accepting such a condition of
      hidden hate and hidden lies and
      hidden destruction of life, decency and care
     AS IF it is a 'beautiful and joyful' condition to be in.
   To try and force people to
    be in the same condition as she is."



[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"Her tangible [experiencable] 'JOY'
  of having done so to others in the past,
    for instance to her own daughter, Freya, for a while, in 1986."





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"Her refusing to look at her ACTUAL intentions,
 her refusing to look at actual CONSEQUENCES
  of destroying (stopping, making inactive)
   a person's decency and good intentions.

"The extreme spiritual force
  with which she is
   secretly defending and
   secretly making right
    her cowardice, and
  with which she is
   making others into
    equal cowards, hateful persons and liars
     as she is herself in this condition."





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"That she ONLY does this
  because she refuses to admit
   how big a coward she was and is."





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"That in this state
  she refuses to see
   that she also could, instead, be decent and caring
     if she would
      admit to having been
       an extreme coward, indecent and very destructive person
        in the past,
      admitting it to herself and others
       that it is the case,
        and
      admitting that she needs, and
      making sure for herself that she gets,
       constant help from others
        in order NOT to be an extreme coward,
         indecent and destructive person."

 (see RI-988i 'Spiritual Criminal "Friendship"  versus  Intending Decency'
       http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-988i.htm)





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"Her ASKING individuals who are in that state or condition,
    like the being L. Ron Hubbard and Richard Reiss,
  to put her BACK in that 'joyful', 'invulnerable' state
   after I, Koos, got her out of it,
 because
  when she is OUT of it,
   she does see, but is too big a coward to admit -
    the enormous destruction to life and to people
     that she has caused while she was IN that state,
  and therefore
   she goes to, joins or waits for such individuals
    who again make her - just as she forcefully does to others
      when she is IN that state -
     unaware
      of her own decency and
      of times that she did care for people
        and DID create life and HAD possessions
        and WAS genuinely interested in others,
    so that she
     does not have to admit, and feel the pain of,
      times
       when she was in that condition
        and 'joyfully and beautifully' destroyed all life with it.

"IN that condition, however,
  she uses
    any tricks and all her intelligence and
    also the memory of achievements she made
      while OUT of that condition,
   in order to with it enforce on people
    that she still would be a
     decent, responsible, caring person,
  even though she
   is now IN that condition
    and
   is now a devil in disguise, as described above,
    who does nothing else but secretly
     destroying decency,
     hating life and
     despising and hating people and herself, and
     hating with most vehemence and
      vast salvos of precisely placed spiritual attacks,
       those who do genuinely care for others or for her."





[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful and responsible"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"That she wants to be admired for
   how 'extremely strong' and
   how 'very brave' and
   how 'great' she is and
   how 'courageous' she is
    for forcing that extreme ugliness onto herself.

"And she wants to be admired
  that she is so 'brave and courageous' - 'others would not dare' -
   in showing and presenting that most ugly condition
    as 'beautiful and joyful':

"Most people are NOT that 'courageous'
  to force such extreme ugliness and destruction upon themselves,
 most people would not have the 'courage, bravery and strength'
  TO BE TORMENTED AND CONFUSED THAT MUCH and
  TO BE DRIVEN THAT INSANE by themselves and by other evil people.

"So it really shows
  how very 'strong and brave' she is
   - and much 'stronger' and 'braver'
      than most people would be willing to endure.


"They would not even have the 'courage'
  to cut off their own ear
   [as in Jutta's lifetime as Vincent van Gogh].

"Or, most people would not have the 'courage'
  to intentionally destroy life.

"Most people would not have the 'courage'
  to intentionally betray and destroy their best friend,
   and make themselves so ugly as to enjoy it.

"Most people would NOT have the 'courage and strength'
  to intentionally
   let themselves be robbed of half a million dollars,
   made to do indecent and ugly things and
   betray their own friends and their own goals and
   steal from them
    when another evil person invites them to do so.

"Most people would NOT have the 'courage'
  to be mean and ugly and lying to their friends,
    would NOT have the 'strength' to do so.




"Most people would NOT have the 'strength and courage'
  to deny and to intentionally not use
   the abilities they do have that would
    help people and themselves.

"And this shows and proves - Jutta actually said in words -
   how much more 'courageous' she is than most other people,
 and it certainly shows
   how much 'stronger' she is
    than almost all civil citizens
     who would never dare to do such things
      even if they occasionally thought of it.




"This also shows and proves,
    at least to herself when she is in that condition
    and to the spiritual co-criminals who enforce it on each other,
  that she is much better than others
   who would NOT dare doing it,
  and even better than her co-criminals
   because of her strength and intelligence
    in doing vicious, mean, ugly and treacherous things 'successfully', and
    in hiding it from and misrepresenting it TO NORMAL PEOPLE,
     with enormous cleverness and many layers of
      cover-ups to cover up other cover-ups.

"So that, when a normal person thinks he
  has figured her out,
  has understood her evil,
    he is only looking at another cover-up,
      amounting to hundreds of layers of cover-ups,
       all extremely forcefully and cleverly put there
        and held there with perfect and well-played pretenses
         to cover-up and keep in place pretenses.




"A good part of the cover-up consists of
  assigning causes of the destruction of life that you see,
     assigning it first to decent people - so you blame them -
      and
    when those layers are penetrated,
    when you have found those out
     as NOT the actual causes of the destruction of life,
      then assigning the causes
       to co-criminals, and
      then assigning causes for the destruction of life
       to past experiences with co-criminals -
         and there are millions and millions of years of
          past with co-criminals to assign it to!"

     [Note by Koos:
        In other words:
          People in this condition are chinese puzzles,
           unless you have read this RI-Bulletin.]



[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"Her forcefully keeping this condition up
  without looking at
   what she is missing out on,
   what she is destroying,
   what actual beauty she is destroying."



[Koos:] What is too ugly to look at
         about what Jutta considers "joyful and beautiful"
          in destroying herself, me and others?

[Auditor:]
"And that she ONLY is doing it
  in order TO PROVE HOW 'STRONG AND COURAGEOUS' SHE IS
    (strong in exerting evil and destruction and insanity and meanness
      and psychosis and unawareness and false admiration).

"And then, by this FALSE show of 'courage in evil',
  she does not have to admit
   what an extreme, extreme coward she is,
     (a coward, as is any psychotic, as is any criminal
       and as is any Suppressive Person)."



                                    Total session time: 2 hrs 19 mins




On 7 January 1997, 11:10 GMT:


[Koos:] Jutta also exhibits the 'bravery', the 'courage'
         to intentionally refuse to face and to handle
          objects, energy and force of the physical universe
           which of course ARE working
             upon her and upon her body and
             upon others and upon their bodies and
             upon life and
           which HAVE to be faced and handled for the communication of
            truth, evidence and proof,
              evidence provided by the actions of a person,
                of Jutta in this case,
               that are visible in the physical universe,
                no matter
                 what she pretends
                 or wants seen different,
                 or wants seen exactly reversed,
                  in her 'invulnerable' condition.

             Physical universe evidence is hard evidence.



Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1998 by Koos Nolst Trenite



* ('Auditor': Someone who carefully listens.)

  [Definition of 'Auditing':
      Confessional in response to given questions,
       with the purpose to release emotional charge and aberrations.]

  (see RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 1996
         http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-541i.htm)


** (For Definitions of 'Suppressive Person'
     see the 'Understanding Suppression Series' [USP-series]
      at http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/usp.htm )



Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1998 by Koos Nolst Trenite



Personal Web-page:
  http://ArtOrg.com

Personal Web-Library:
  http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/

Library Search Engine:
  http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/search.html



References (available also at the Library "http://Art-Org.com/"):

- About the Spiritual Criminal game

  RI-990i  'Spiritual Criminal Code of Honor - "Self-determinism"' 2 Jan 98
  RI-989i  'Marie-Louise's sex with Napoleon - Enforcing Ugly Admiration'

  RI-987i  'Making a World of Spiritual Sanity and Freedom' of 26 Dec 1997
  RI-988i  'Spiritual Criminal "Friendship"  versus  Intending Decency'

  RI-985i  'Vicious Spiritual Evil of Richard Reiss Not Faced - VITAL VITAL'
  RI-984i  'The Criminal Mind - Cowards Don't Dare Create Life - VITAL DATA'

  RI-981i  'Jutta RUNNING AWAY - from facing Reiss driving her insane'
  RI-978i  'The Wall of Shame - Remedy of Hell, Jutta, Socrates, Black Magic'


- About Sanity and Facing Evil

  RI-449i  'A Rule For Freedom' of 14 Jan 1996
  RI-714i  'State of Sanity, Definition of' of 24 Oct 1996
  RI-537i  'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996

  RI-929i  'Simple Detection: "Sane or Insane?"' of 11 Sept 1997
  RI-962i  'The Master Path to Life - Platonism understood' of 1 Nov 97

  RI-908i  'The Ostrich-factor - on facing evil or criminality' 16 Jul 97
  RI-974i  'Truth about "Not putting attention on evil of others"' 27 Nov 97


- About Helping People, Care, Responsibility

  RI-592i  'How To Look At People' of 5 June 1996
  RI-781BPI 'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 16 Jan 1997

  RI-631i  'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
  RI-629i  'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996

  RI-602i  'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996
  RI-801i  '"You can never leave" - The spiritual universe' of 14 Mar 1997
  RI-785i  'On Not Remedying Disagreements - "Not Talking"' of 24 Jan 1997


- About RI-Bulletins

  RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
  RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
               Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996


These references and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

    at the Library of Koos' writings on
         http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/
         http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/usp.htm
         http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/telepathy.htm

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